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Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: On the 763-page report, known as the “huge effort” report and referred to by the then Minister, he was disappointed that Revenue’s response was minimal after a short meeting. After that, there was the addendum report which was referred to by another Minister which contained more information. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: There is a senior civil servant sending the Revenue this but he is getting no response at all. He believes it contains some new information.

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: Several reasons for no prosecutions were given, namely, the absence of original documents, some involved were foreign residents who were ineligible, as well as other reasons. It seems to me that Revenue should have at least taken a test case. There must have been some cases out of the 289 they could have taken. Were there no documents in all of the 289 cases?

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: Okay, we are dealing with 145 cases then.

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: Was the ten-year condition introduced in 1995?

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: The Ansbacher offences were committed from 1970 to 1992.

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: Revenue could not prosecute anything after 2002 because of the ten-year rule.

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: Revenue was pretty squeezed for time. It could have taken some prosecutions in 2001.

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: So one could have reached a point-----

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: One could have taken a prosecution for anybody who committed an offence up to 1997.

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: Correct. But Revenue had identified the offences in all these cases, otherwise they would not have settled.

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: In every single case.

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: Then why did all these people settle?

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: This does not look too innocent. Does it?

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: Guys have got stuff stuffed away so that nobody can see it. It does not look as if they are doing it for an innocent reason. It looks pretty like evasion. Does it not?

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: Sorry it is a prima faciecase for evasion.

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: But you see what it looks like. It is pretty obvious that if these things are happening there is a prima faciecase for tax evasion. I am not saying it is in every case but it looks very like it. When one sees people prosecuted for very small amounts of tax evasion in this country compared with these people and other people here getting settlements which appear to be reasonably generous...

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: Could the witness give us an idea of the source of the funds for a typical tax Ansbacher account holder?

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: Can I just finish now? May I say this to finish up? What Ms Feehily has said is very useful because it sadly contradicts a lot of what we have heard from the whistleblower. One can see how it can look from his point of view. Let me sum up by saying this. He sees a situation where his inquiries were closed down. He sees a situation where the Revenue was unresponsive, more than...

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: Okay.

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