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Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: Is there anybody here who had any communication with him?

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: Okay. That is not his view.

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: That is the view of Ms Feehily.

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: Okay, it is not his view. Let me go further. We are looking at this from the point of view of lost revenue to the State, and whether the Revenue Commissioners are collecting what ought to be collected. The officer is saying in his submission that he believes the reason he was stymied - in that he was called off his first investigation - why the second one, which was "the huge effort...

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: Has there never been any indication of that whatsoever?

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: Is Ms Feehily saying that in the matter of the Ansbacher accounts, there was never any political interference?

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: That is fine. On page 21 of this submission the authorised officer says in effect that his reports on the senior Deputies Caymen accounts were reported to three investigative authorities, the Garda, the ODCE and the Revenue, which were run by persons who had been appointed to their positions by Fianna Fáil and Progressive Democrats Ministers. It is the view of the authorised officer...

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: What he is saying is that he believes there is a connection between the fact that the three investigative authorities, the Garda, the ODCE and the Revenue did not properly investigate this because there was a connection between them and the fact that the people at the top were political appointees. Would Ms Feehily comment on that? Does Ms Feehily not agree?

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: That is fine. I am just trying to establish where the conflicts are and that Ms Feehily reject what he is saying.

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: The authorised officer mentions in this report what he calls "the black briefcase", a secret ledger in the Ansbacher accounts story, which apparently has not been properly investigated. Does Ms Feehily wish to comment on that?

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: Is Ms Feehily aware of what he is talking about - obviously this is not particularly confidential - when he talks about this black briefcase?

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: Including a secret ledger to which he refers as the black briefcase.

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: Did Revenue collect money from that particular file?

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: Does Ms Feehily believe it was good that the authorised officer was pulled off the case in 2004?

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: Why not?

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: Was he not producing some very useful information?

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: I am not asking Ms Feehily to comment on that at all. I am just saying that he produced stuff for the Revenue Commissioners, for which she paid him a great deal of tribute, but he was pulled off that. Surely if he was doing a good job, Ms Feehily had some response that this was stopped?

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: Essentially, it did not make any difference to Ms Feehily whether he was pulled off or not?

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: I do not quite understand that. He was a senior civil servant doing a very good job, which Ms Feehily acknowledged, and he was suddenly pulled off that job. He was giving the Revenue Commissioners information all the time which they are following up and collecting moneys as a result. I will put the question this way. Was Ms Feehily surprised? Would it not have been better for Revenue if...

Public Accounts Committee: Investigations by Revenue into Authorised Officers Report (4 Dec 2014)

Shane Ross: So he was redundant at that stage.

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