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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: General Scheme of Gender Recognition Bill 2013: Discussion (23 Oct 2013)

Joanna Tuffy: I apologise to Senator Averil Power as, according to our practice, she should have been invited to speak first.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: General Scheme of Gender Recognition Bill 2013: Discussion (23 Oct 2013)

Joanna Tuffy: I will invite the Department officials to respond first.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: General Scheme of Gender Recognition Bill 2013: Discussion (23 Oct 2013)

Joanna Tuffy: That is a policy matter and as such there are legal constraints.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: General Scheme of Gender Recognition Bill 2013: Discussion (23 Oct 2013)

Joanna Tuffy: Senator Power asked a question about the constitutional issue - whether people should be made to separate or allowed to stay together, which fits into the constitutional framework. Has Ms Ryan any comments?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: General Scheme of Gender Recognition Bill 2013: Discussion (23 Oct 2013)

Joanna Tuffy: I have a number of questions. Does everybody agree that if the Bill, as presented, were passed, we would have made progress? Does anybody disagree with that point? Progress can be made all at once or in incremental steps. Is the proposed legislation progressive, as it stands, compared to the current position? In respect of young people, there is no provision in legislation for...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: General Scheme of Gender Recognition Bill 2013: Discussion (23 Oct 2013)

Joanna Tuffy: Does Mr. Mannion want to comment?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: General Scheme of Gender Recognition Bill 2013: Discussion (23 Oct 2013)

Joanna Tuffy: Does Mr. Mannion consider that age should be specified in legislation?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: General Scheme of Gender Recognition Bill 2013: Discussion (23 Oct 2013)

Joanna Tuffy: I thank Professor O'Shea. Does Ms Ryan wish to comment?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: General Scheme of Gender Recognition Bill 2013: Discussion (23 Oct 2013)

Joanna Tuffy: From whom would the letter come?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: General Scheme of Gender Recognition Bill 2013: Discussion (23 Oct 2013)

Joanna Tuffy: I do not believe the matter would fall within the competence of the Department of Social Protection.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: General Scheme of Gender Recognition Bill 2013: Discussion (23 Oct 2013)

Joanna Tuffy: Does Ms Ryan wish to reply to the question posed by Ms Philips?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: General Scheme of Gender Recognition Bill 2013: Discussion (23 Oct 2013)

Joanna Tuffy: We will conclude on that point. I thank all of our guests. If there are points which they did not have an opportunity to address or on which they wish to provide further information or if they wish to clarify particular matters, they are free to correspond with the committee. A further six representatives will come before us at our meeting tomorrow morning.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: General Scheme of Gender Recognition Bill 2013: Discussion (Resumed) (24 Oct 2013)

Joanna Tuffy: Apologies have been received from Deputy McConalogue. I draw the attention of the witnesses to the fact that, by virtue of section 17(2)(l) of the Defamation Act 2009, witnesses are protected by absolute privilege in respect of their evidence to this committee. However, if you are directed by the committee to cease giving evidence on a particular matter and you continue to so do, you are...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: General Scheme of Gender Recognition Bill 2013: Discussion (Resumed) (24 Oct 2013)

Joanna Tuffy: We had agreed a process whereby we would have one speaker per group. Could Ms Woods please wrap up very quickly?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: General Scheme of Gender Recognition Bill 2013: Discussion (Resumed) (24 Oct 2013)

Joanna Tuffy: We will return with questions for each group.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: General Scheme of Gender Recognition Bill 2013: Discussion (Resumed) (24 Oct 2013)

Joanna Tuffy: I invite Mr. Brian Merriman to make the presentation on behalf of the Equality Authority.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: General Scheme of Gender Recognition Bill 2013: Discussion (Resumed) (24 Oct 2013)

Joanna Tuffy: Thank you, Dr. Ryan. I now call Dr. Tanya Ní Mhuirthile.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: General Scheme of Gender Recognition Bill 2013: Discussion (Resumed) (24 Oct 2013)

Joanna Tuffy: That is great. We will now take questions. I will follow the usual routine by taking contributions from party spokespersons before taking those of other members in the order in which they indicate. There will be a maximum of three minutes per member. I call Deputy Ó Snodaigh.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: General Scheme of Gender Recognition Bill 2013: Discussion (Resumed) (24 Oct 2013)

Joanna Tuffy: No, Dr. Crowley is here to answer questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: General Scheme of Gender Recognition Bill 2013: Discussion (Resumed) (24 Oct 2013)

Joanna Tuffy: I will return to the panel and then I will ask another three members to contribute. Was the point made about the temporary certificate a question?

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