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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Oct 2022)

Michael McNamara: On the EU directive, is the proscription on selling antiparasitic medicines without a prescription or on buying them? Which will be banned - buying them or selling them?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Oct 2022)

Michael McNamara: Okay, but it is perfectly lawful for a merchant in Northern Ireland to sell that product. Obviously, it is a different jurisdiction so it is perfectly lawful to sell that, put it in a courier's van and have it at any farm in Ireland the next day.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Oct 2022)

Michael McNamara: There is, therefore, no enforcement. We are trying to keep it that there is no enforcement at the Border.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Oct 2022)

Michael McNamara: I would respectfully suggest it is much more. The purpose of this directive at an EU level is to reduce the unnecessary use of medicines and to be able to keep account of what is used.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Oct 2022)

Michael McNamara: If a system were to be introduced whereby people had to get a prescription and then go to a pharmacist with that prescription, it is quite obvious that there would be a huge increase in people going online or picking up the telephone and ordering from Northern Ireland for it to arrive in the courier's van the next day. The merchants in Northern Ireland would be committing absolutely no...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Oct 2022)

Michael McNamara: Yes, of course.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Oct 2022)

Michael McNamara: According to the Northern Irish Department?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Oct 2022)

Michael McNamara: Should it have as much to say about what happens in Northern Ireland as - I do not know; take your pick - Vladimir Putin?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Oct 2022)

Michael McNamara: This is the question I am asking. If the current system whereby a person can go to a merchant for antiparasitics or an antibiotic, etc. is removed, does anyone on the panel think we are not going to see a huge increase in people ordering from Northern Ireland, thereby completely defeating the purpose of the regulation?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Oct 2022)

Michael McNamara: Is that phenomenon going to increase dramatically?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Oct 2022)

Michael McNamara: Because of a different interpretation across the Border.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Oct 2022)

Michael McNamara: It will, therefore, be self-defeating. Implementing it will defeat the purpose of the EU legislation in the first place.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Oct 2022)

Michael McNamara: That is all I wanted to clarify.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: EU Nature Restoration Target: COPA-COGECA (5 Oct 2022)

Michael McNamara: I was listening to this from my office and when I heard about the 20% cap on Bord na Mona I decided to come down. How did it come about? Very few farms are comprised of 100% peatland but there are farms where it comprises far more than 20% of the holding. These farmers might have to rewet all of the peatland regardless of what proportion of the holding it comprises. Is this correct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: EU Nature Restoration Target: COPA-COGECA (5 Oct 2022)

Michael McNamara: How did the 20% cap for Bord na Mona come about?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: EU Nature Restoration Target: COPA-COGECA (5 Oct 2022)

Michael McNamara: For anybody?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: EU Nature Restoration Target: COPA-COGECA (5 Oct 2022)

Michael McNamara: Not all Bord na Mona lands are subject to extraction now. A certain proportion of its lands have not been subject to peat extraction for a considerable period of time. Does the regulation state that any land that was ever subject to extraction is exemp? Was that the initial proposal?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: EU Nature Restoration Target: COPA-COGECA (5 Oct 2022)

Michael McNamara: I understand what Mr. Curley said about drained peatland, but how do areas that were subject to peat extraction and were drained peatland end up being exempted? Perhaps I have missed something.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: EU Nature Restoration Target: COPA-COGECA (5 Oct 2022)

Michael McNamara: Mr. Curley said that initially, under the first proposal, all Bord na Móna lands that were subject to peat extraction were exempted and did not have to be rewetted. Then, under the second proposal-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: EU Nature Restoration Target: COPA-COGECA (5 Oct 2022)

Michael McNamara: -----it was capped. They were included but there was a cap at 20%.

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