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Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: I am not asking Ms McCaffrey to go into the details. I am just asking whether anyone was disciplined. I am not asking her to identify anybody. Was anybody ever disciplined for that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: Okay. There was nobody disciplined for it. It was also identified that the purchase of beer, cider and rum to a value of €945 was in breach of the Civil Service code. Again, was there anyone disciplined for that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: Okay. It was also suggest that there was more than €3,500 spent by one prison in 24 months in local pubs, which was from the prisoners assistance fund.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: That was some administrative error. Was it not another administrative error?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: Yes, but for €3,500.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: Yes. That was by one prison in 24 months in local pubs.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: Yes, but how would that-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: -----money come out? Setting aside administrative errors, how would somebody in Ms McCaffrey's employment actually think that funding could come out of a prisoners assistance fund? How would that benefit prisoners? How would that mistake be made? Where was the oversight?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: Where was Ms McPhillips's oversight?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: Yes, but I am talking about the prisoners assistance fund.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: I have a couple of questions. A detective garda inspector recently commented that the divisional protective services units are under-resourced. He also said that was an issue throughout the State. Does the Department accept that analysis?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: Okay, so you would not like to comment on it either way.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: Another deputy Garda commissioner commented recently that there are more than 300 gardaí. Does Ms McPhillips have the figure for those working in child protection units prior to the establishment of the DPSUs?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: Could we request that information?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: I am asking Ms McPhillips's opinion on the DPSUs that do not currently have the capacity to investigate domestic violence cases. Does she know if there is any plan to rectify that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: That is all right.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: You forgot about me. I wanted to flag this correspondence, particularly because it relates to previous correspondence and engagement with RTÉ, specifically No. R1198B from the Department of Social Protection. It is about bogus self-employment and RTE workers' cases. I do not feel the Department of Social Protection's related correspondence adequately addresses our question as to why...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: Yes, but the two items are tied in with RTÉ. RTÉ has committed to back pay of up to only four years and nothing at all in respect of holiday pay or pension contributions. I do not see how it could get away with that. I know the Chairman has referred to the other correspondence, but could we write to both the Department of Social Protection and RTÉ to ask them both whether...

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