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Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (18 Feb 2004)

Mary Henry: That is right.

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (18 Feb 2004)

Mary Henry: That is right.

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (18 Feb 2004)

Mary Henry: She cannot come from the United States.

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (18 Feb 2004)

Mary Henry: I can understand the Minister saying she is not competent to discuss this matter as it is difficult to find anyone who says they are. However, it is a real problem. Can the Minister and her officials reconsider the issue of the guardianship register? The orders made in court are already written down somewhere.

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (18 Feb 2004)

Mary Henry: While the Minister is quite right to say that people should keep their papers safe, it is amazing what happens to important bits of paper, which often get lost. I hope the Minister can revisit this issue, in particular as it involves so many children and parents and not a small isolated group. To return to the matter of the other small isolated group to which I referred earlier, they will not...

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (18 Feb 2004)

Mary Henry: I move amendment No. 6: In page 20, before section 18, but in Part 3 of the Bill, to insert the following new section: 18.---(1) the Minister shall establish an advisory body, to be known as the Civil Registration Advisory Body (and referred to in this Act as 'the Advisory body'), to advise an tArd-Chláraitheoir and an tArd-Chláraitheoir Cúnta in their exercise of the powers and duties...

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (18 Feb 2004)

Mary Henry: Before I was elected to the Seanad, as a doctor I was tortured by people asking questions about social welfare. When I entered the House it was worse. Then, seven years ago, the queries stopped. I thought they had realised I had no power or influence but then I discovered that the Department of Social and Family Affairs had been touched by an angel of some sort and there had been training in...

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (18 Feb 2004)

Mary Henry: I will be in contact with the Minister because the Council of Irish Genealogical Organisations will be in contact with me. If the system does not work there will be this chain reaction. We will have to see how it works.

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (18 Feb 2004)

Mary Henry: No.

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (18 Feb 2004)

Mary Henry: Given that Senator Mansergh quoted Oscar Wilde, why should I not quote Homer? He stated, "It is a wise child that knows his own father" but it is now a case of its being a wise child that knows his own mother. These issues are very important in the Bill. To add to the Minister's complications and in order that she will have something to talk about over lunch after Cabinet meetings——

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (18 Feb 2004)

Mary Henry: ——the daughter of a woman in her 40s had to have a hysterectomy and it was proposed that her mother would have a baby using her daughter's ova and sperm from the partner of the daughter. The mother was still married to the girl's father. If the child was born, the gestational mother, the genetic mother's sister, would be the parent and the grandfather of the child would be the father....

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (18 Feb 2004)

Mary Henry: She is the gestational mother.

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (18 Feb 2004)

Mary Henry: I support Senator Hayes' comments. It is extraordinarily important for the child that everything possible is done to ensure the father's name is registered at birth. A distinction exists between the registration of marital births and non-marital births and so a difficulty arises from the moment of registration.

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (18 Feb 2004)

Mary Henry: The First Schedule requires the provision of a considerable number of particulars. I am concerned that the personal public service number of the father must be provided. I hope this will not deter people or lead them to believe that they will be pursued for maintenance money. While the warm feelings remain after someone is told he is the father of a child, it might be advisable not to seek...

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (18 Feb 2004)

Mary Henry: With the exception of that requirement, the Schedule seems fine.

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (18 Feb 2004)

Mary Henry: The child can still be registered.

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (18 Feb 2004)

Mary Henry: It has happened.

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (18 Feb 2004)

Mary Henry: I move amendment No. 13: In page 23, subsection (2)(d), line 4, to delete "child." and substitute the following: "child, or (e) declare that they are the mother and father of the child concerned or the prospective parents of the child yet unborn and make a statutory declaration to that effect containing the required particulars needed to register the birth or stillbirth as the case may be."....

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (18 Feb 2004)

Mary Henry: Will there be double indexation of surnames, in particular, if a child is re-registered? That could be very important from the point of view of the father, the mother and members of the extended family who wished to look the names up in future.

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (18 Feb 2004)

Mary Henry: I support Senator Hayes. This is very important. There are many Mary Henrys and it might be as well if they had my date of birth when they are certifying my death in case they confuse me with someone else.

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