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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Bernard Durkan: Not necessarily. If the policy is for open disclosure and if some members of staff - I use that term in the all-embracing sense - were not in favour, there was then a conflict within the system. Did some clinicians state they were not in favour of open disclosure because there were cases pending in which such open disclosure, if now practiced, would leave certain people exposed? Would I be...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Bernard Durkan: I have no doubt that everybody decided that open disclosure was a good thing. We all agreed with that. But if someone does not practice that, in essence it means that it is not going to work. If there are people who are opposed to the concept of open disclosure, it will cause a glitch in the system, which it did, and it was a serious one. We would be entitled to know what happened at that...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Bernard Durkan: Were disciplinary measures taken against anybody who had serious reservations about the operation and full implementation of full disclosure? Was anybody cautioned?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Bernard Durkan: Generally but it would affect this issue as well.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Bernard Durkan: Do we know that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Bernard Durkan: That is if the patient knew.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Bernard Durkan: I have a number of other questions but I do not want to go on too long.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Bernard Durkan: The accuracy and reliability of the screening tests ranges between 10%, 15% and 20%. How accurate is it? How accurate has it been shown to be and were any questions raised about that in the course of the debate that took place around this issue in 2016 or since then?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Bernard Durkan: How about the situation in the United States where the practice is to have the test every year as opposed to every three years? Was there not a danger that the practice followed here was not as good or all encompassing as that which applied in the United States and was open to a difficulty of this nature?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Bernard Durkan: I know that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Bernard Durkan: In the ideal situation, what would be the ideal levels to achieve in terms of the frequency of screening, given that the two systems are not entirely compatible?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Bernard Durkan: I did not overstay my welcome on the last occasion. I kept to the rules.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Bernard Durkan: The rules apply to everybody.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Bernard Durkan: I am not chairing but-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Bernard Durkan: I am sorry about that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Bernard Durkan: I am not but-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Bernard Durkan: -----everybody on the committee must be treated equally-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Bernard Durkan: -----with no exceptions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Bernard Durkan: I will remain here. I will not go home early yet.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Discussion (16 May 2018)

Bernard Durkan: Hold on, Chairman.

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