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Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (3 Jul 2014)

Shane Ross: What is Mr. Timmins doing about CRC Medical Devices? He is reviewing the deal. What does that mean?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (3 Jul 2014)

Shane Ross: We will come to that because it is shambles. Nobody seems to be in charge there. There are no directors and nobody knows what was the deal. Part of the company is in wind-down, assets have been sold off for unknown sums with no explanation why the company has been losing money for a long time. Perhaps I will ask Mr. Goulding about that later. I have a question for Ms McGuinness before I...

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (3 Jul 2014)

Shane Ross: Did the HSE even know about its existence?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (3 Jul 2014)

Shane Ross: I know but I want that confirmed by its officials. They knew about the existence of it.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (3 Jul 2014)

Shane Ross: Did the HSE know about its existence or not?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (3 Jul 2014)

Shane Ross: Did the HSE know about the existence of the company?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (3 Jul 2014)

Shane Ross: That is pretty bad if the HSE did not know about the existence of the company. That company was co-funding the CRC, which the HSE was funding to the extent of approximately €16 million a year.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (3 Jul 2014)

Shane Ross: I know what the solution is but I am talking about what happened.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (3 Jul 2014)

Shane Ross: I am a little staggered by this. The HSE was giving the CRC €16 million on average a year but it knew it was getting funds elsewhere and the CRC was never asked by the HSE what funds were available to it elsewhere or where they were coming from.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (3 Jul 2014)

Shane Ross: In 2009, Mr. Peelo said to HSE officials - I think Ms McGuinness was present - that the CRC was funding the additional €136,000 of Mr. Kiely's salary. Did she not ask how much money the organisation had and where it was coming from? There could have been €100 million there. They had approximately €14 million at the time.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (3 Jul 2014)

Shane Ross: But the HSE knew there was money there.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (3 Jul 2014)

Shane Ross: Mr. Goulding's statement says there was a joint venture with the HSE.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (3 Jul 2014)

Shane Ross: But Ms McGuinness did not ask how much money the CRC had buried away.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (3 Jul 2014)

Shane Ross: When I began examining this issue, as Ms McGuinness will be aware, it did not take me more than 20 minutes to find out about the Friends and Supporters of the CRC and it did not take me more than ten seconds to see that they had €14 million on hand. I cannot understand why the HSE did not know about this or did not ask about this and when the CRC was requesting funding, presumably by...

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (3 Jul 2014)

Shane Ross: The HSE did not know about the company either.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (3 Jul 2014)

Shane Ross: I think it should have done probably, but if that will not happen again, it is an improvement. It seems that the HSE was kept in the dark according to Mr. Cregan's report about pretty well everything that is material to the discussion we are having today - perhaps Ms McGuinness might correct me. It was kept in the dark about the extent of Mr. Kiely's pay for several years. It was kept in...

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (3 Jul 2014)

Shane Ross: I ask Mr. Goulding to comment on that. The HSE is claiming that the board, of which he was chairman, did not inform it of what was happening in terms of Mr. Kiely's package, Mr. Conlan's appointment, Mr. Kiely's pay, pay generally, and the Friends and Supporters of the Central Remedial Clinic.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (3 Jul 2014)

Shane Ross: There was a confidentiality clause, was there not?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (3 Jul 2014)

Shane Ross: Did that include not telling the HSE as well?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (3 Jul 2014)

Shane Ross: Can we come back to that later because it is a big issue?