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Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Chapter 13 - The Development of Eircode, the National Postcode System
(28 Jan 2016)

Patrick O'Donovan: The Department of Public Expenditure and Reform was aware of it. I asked whether the Comptroller and Auditor General's report was read, and it was. These people only finished in July when the process concluded. The Department should have been made aware of seven, but the other Department only told it about two. Obviously, no action was taken because the other five seemed to have continued...

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Chapter 13 - The Development of Eircode, the National Postcode System
(28 Jan 2016)

Patrick O'Donovan: It is totally and utterly unacceptable-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Chapter 13 - The Development of Eircode, the National Postcode System
(28 Jan 2016)

Patrick O'Donovan: Mr. Griffin has made an assertion about something that I just said. For me, it is totally and utterly unacceptable for the Secretary General of the Department of Communications, Energy and Natural Resources to tell this committee that consultants who were retired public servants, in some cases with a connection to the Department, received payments in the order of €146,000 without...

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Chapter 13 - The Development of Eircode, the National Postcode System
(28 Jan 2016)

Patrick O'Donovan: The taxpayer is offended by this report.

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Chapter 13 - The Development of Eircode, the National Postcode System
(28 Jan 2016)

Patrick O'Donovan: Then why did the Department not tender out the process?

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Chapter 13 - The Development of Eircode, the National Postcode System
(28 Jan 2016)

Patrick O'Donovan: This issue had been knocking around since 2005-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Chapter 13 - The Development of Eircode, the National Postcode System
(28 Jan 2016)

Patrick O'Donovan: -----but the Department was in a hurry in 2013.

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Chapter 13 - The Development of Eircode, the National Postcode System
(28 Jan 2016)

Patrick O'Donovan: These people remained in situwith renewed contracts. For example, consultant A had contracts dated October 2013, February 2014, September 2014 and January 2015. This person's four contracts' daily rates ranged from €362 per day to €604 per day at a total cost of €146,000. The Department had from 2005 to 2013 to get its act together, but no procurement process was...

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Chapter 13 - The Development of Eircode, the National Postcode System
(28 Jan 2016)

Patrick O'Donovan: And it just so happened to be a retired public servant.

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Chapter 13 - The Development of Eircode, the National Postcode System
(28 Jan 2016)

Patrick O'Donovan: We know it is not unusual. We see that here week in, week out.

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Chapter 13 - The Development of Eircode, the National Postcode System
(28 Jan 2016)

Patrick O'Donovan: What is not allowed is the lack of competitive tendering.

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Chapter 13 - The Development of Eircode, the National Postcode System
(28 Jan 2016)

Patrick O'Donovan: Was consultant B working for the Department of Communications, Energy and Natural Resources? Mr. Griffin stated that he managed the digital switchover.

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Chapter 13 - The Development of Eircode, the National Postcode System
(28 Jan 2016)

Patrick O'Donovan: But he was a retired civil servant.

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Chapter 13 - The Development of Eircode, the National Postcode System
(28 Jan 2016)

Patrick O'Donovan: I am asking about consultant B.

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Chapter 13 - The Development of Eircode, the National Postcode System
(28 Jan 2016)

Patrick O'Donovan: No. Mr. Griffin told me a while ago that consultant A had been with the ESB-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Chapter 13 - The Development of Eircode, the National Postcode System
(28 Jan 2016)

Patrick O'Donovan: -----and that consultant B had managed the digital switchover.

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Chapter 13 - The Development of Eircode, the National Postcode System
(28 Jan 2016)

Patrick O'Donovan: He was responsible for the IT sector within the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine, but he had no specific expertise of coding for postcodes and so on. He came from the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine and had no connection to Mr. Griffin's Department. Obviously that was a skill set that was available. If one went down to Sir John Rogerson's Quay, one would...

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Chapter 13 - The Development of Eircode, the National Postcode System
(28 Jan 2016)

Patrick O'Donovan: I have some brief questions. Consultant C was a process auditor.

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Chapter 13 - The Development of Eircode, the National Postcode System
(28 Jan 2016)

Patrick O'Donovan: He had a skill set in procurement.

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Chapter 13 - The Development of Eircode, the National Postcode System
(28 Jan 2016)

Patrick O'Donovan: He was appointed without competitive tendering. Given that he had a background in procurement, should he not have said, as a person who was getting in excess of €30,000 that there might be a problem and that the Department might be better off advertising for his services? Consultant E was the legal firm. What was the legal firm and had it done work previously for the Department?

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