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Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Thomas Byrne: That is the teachers.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Thomas Byrne: Are the 440 just mainstream classroom teachers?

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Thomas Byrne: Will some of the special education provision be based on demographics as well?

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Thomas Byrne: If there are more kids coming in, there will be a greater need demographically for special education teachers.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Thomas Byrne: There will be an increased number of children who have special needs within that increased number of pupils unless the percentages decrease.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Thomas Byrne: That is the analysis I am seeking.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Thomas Byrne: What percentage of that demographic has special educational needs?

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Thomas Byrne: Is the Minister not able to tell me what proportion of that figure is based only on what is actually required by the number of kids?

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Thomas Byrne: I understand that, but it looked like the Minister's officials thought it was a good question because they were discussing it. How much of that additional resource is just to cover the increasing number of children with special needs? It might be only a handful. The absolute numbers are increasing.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Thomas Byrne: Okay, but some of it must be demographic related. If there are more kids coming in there would be more-----

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Thomas Byrne: They are classroom teachers.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Thomas Byrne: If the Minister can. I can understand that DEIS is extra, but I am just wondering-----

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Thomas Byrne: The same issues that we have talked about already apply to junior cycle reform and teacher training, although perhaps that does not come under this heading. The Minister is putting a lot of resources into professional training for the junior cycle, and yet one of two the unions involved is officially not taking part in it. How many hours are being paid for ASTI teachers who are not...

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Thomas Byrne: I have an issue I omitted to raise. Not to cause problems for anybody, but is it possible to set out clearly the position of union members who leave a union? If an ASTI member leaves, and I am not encouraging anyone to do so, and stays outside the union, does he or she get the benefits of the Lansdowne Road agreement? Does such a person have to join the TUI to get the benefits of the...

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Thomas Byrne: Can a mathematics teacher provide guidance and still come within the circular?

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Thomas Byrne: To what degree? Where is that specified?

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Thomas Byrne: My question is on guidance. The Minister stated that a mathematics teacher would only be able to provide guidance to a small degree. Is there any restriction in the circular on the time a mathematics teacher can spend giving guidance?

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Thomas Byrne: Does the Minister's circular restrict it?

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Thomas Byrne: I am not accusing principals of trying to undermine this plan but am I correct in saying that under the Minister's circular and allocation, he would have no crib with a school if all the hours are provided by non-guidance counsellors? If, for example, maths teachers were to provide all the hours of guidance the Minister would not be unhappy?

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(2 May 2017)

Thomas Byrne: But it could be the maths teacher.

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