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Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Health Service Executive
Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2011
(25 Apr 2013)

John McGuinness: On the question of consultants, is it possible to get a list of four or five hospitals, without naming them? We have an average number of days of 62, 44 and 30. Can we receive a list of a number of hospitals indicating how many days they might be out, without naming the hospitals, in order that we can get beyond the average figure and look at the detail? It seems that it is a very...

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Health Service Executive
Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2011
(25 Apr 2013)

John McGuinness: I asked for the worst examples.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Health Service Executive
Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2011
(25 Apr 2013)

John McGuinness: We are more interested in the worst examples. We have listened to this at several meetings and yet failed to get the information in a way that is clearly understood. It is about time we were given the information so that it is crystal clear. So Ennis, instead of going in the right direction went the wrong direction.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Health Service Executive
Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2011
(25 Apr 2013)

John McGuinness: The challenges that face the HSE in respect of those days are considerable when one looks at it in the stark light of each individual hospital. An explanation needs to be given as to why some hospitals have dramatically reduced the number of days while others seem to have ignored the agreement in place because the numbers have shot back up again. We need to understand these figures clearly...

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Health Service Executive
Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2011
(25 Apr 2013)

John McGuinness: I am following the line of questions with great interest. Does a list exist within the organisation that would answer Deputy O'Donnell's question?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Health Service Executive
Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2011
(25 Apr 2013)

John McGuinness: I want to be helpful in getting the information. Is it a list that Mr. Woods can request by e-mail in order that it can be circulated to members?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Health Service Executive
Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2011
(25 Apr 2013)

John McGuinness: Who are they? Do they include Mr. McDonald?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Health Service Executive
Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2011
(25 Apr 2013)

John McGuinness: The HSE has received €100 million from private insurers. How does that impact positively or negatively in the current year?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Health Service Executive
Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2011
(25 Apr 2013)

John McGuinness: Has it worsened the HSE's cash position in the current year?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Health Service Executive
Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2011
(25 Apr 2013)

John McGuinness: Could it have a negative impact on the HSE's accounts this year because of the fact that the executive received an advance payment in 2012?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Health Service Executive
Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2011
(25 Apr 2013)

John McGuinness: What if does not continue?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Health Service Executive
Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2011
(25 Apr 2013)

John McGuinness: Therefore, it could be a problem.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Health Service Executive
Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2011
(25 Apr 2013)

John McGuinness: The officials have to be extremely careful in how they manage this to ensure the position does not turn into a negative, which it could.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Health Service Executive
Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2011
(25 Apr 2013)

John McGuinness: If we get the list and the costs involved, perhaps we might revisit the issue.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Health Service Executive
Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2011
(25 Apr 2013)

John McGuinness: Yes, once we receive the correspondence.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Health Service Executive
Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2011
(25 Apr 2013)

John McGuinness: It was said the Department of Health had employed PA Consulting, or was it the HSE that had employed that firm?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Health Service Executive
Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2011
(25 Apr 2013)

John McGuinness: What was the value of the contract with the Department of Health?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Health Service Executive
Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2011
(25 Apr 2013)

John McGuinness: How much is the contract with the HSE worth?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Health Service Executive
Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2011
(25 Apr 2013)

John McGuinness: That feeds into the analysis of the financial systems the HSE needs in terms of oversight. Was the Ogden report commissioned by the Department of Health? I assume Mr. O'Brien would not know the cost of that report.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Health Service Executive
Health Service Executive Financial Statements 2011
(25 Apr 2013)

John McGuinness: Would the Department know the cost of the Ogden report and the PA Consulting contract?

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