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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: That is okay; I am on the clock.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: The reason I am asking is that I have never, and I am half a century old, seen as many badgers dead on the roadside as I travel the roads. I do quite a bit of travelling but I am actually quite concerned. The reason is that hitting a badger is like hitting a cement block. It can cause extensive damage and probably a very serious accident. Other animals that do that kind of damage are...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Each year, their contribution is growing. It is in the double million figures. It is a very significant event for any family farm to end up with TB. There is a stigma attached to it even still. We must look at this in the round. It is not just about animal welfare or TB eradication. We are now going to see it become a road safety concern. As Dr. Fanning said, badgers are nocturnal...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Is that on the ash dieback?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: But the Department has not been accepting applications for the ash dieback scheme since January. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: So who compiles forestry dashboard?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Will Mr. Hayes tell me that again? Is it 1,000 licences for felling?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Were they predominantly issued to Coillte? Were the majority of them - or the higher percentage - issued to Coillte?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Why was the Minister's current application to the EU delayed for two and half years? Why was he two and a half years late in making that request?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: How many trees were planted in those two years?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: It would not be significant considering that our targets have been revised downwards and we are now at 8,000.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: I heard Mr. Gleeson saying this earlier.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: It is going to take some convincing.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: It is like anything; Mr. Gleeson will be here this time next year and I will be asking how it is going. I suppose we will see how it goes. I have a question for Mr. Callanan. With regard to the measuring of emissions, are CO2 and methane measured in the same way?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Does that make sense? Methane, as we know, is less harmful. It stays in the atmosphere a lot less, for ten years effectively when it is dispersed, whereas CO2 is accumulated. How does it make sense to convert methane emissions into CO2?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Let us consider the farmer in this country who is producing methane, and then consider some body that is operating vehicles, for example, Irish Rail with trains that are not carbon efficient, if methane is gone within ten years and is less harmful why do we concentrate so heavily on the farmer when there is another sector producing lots of carbon emissions? Why do we concentrate so heavily,...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Mr. Gleeson is the first Secretary General I have heard to say he was not an expert. We have recorded it.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: At what rate does CO2 heat in comparison to methane? Mr. Gleeson said he is not an expert but that very much sounded like an expert opinion on methane.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: What does reducing CO2 do?

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