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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Jan 2016)

John Deasy: The key thing is, and it is worth repeating, those individuals have made it clear, within their organisation and to others, that they were not aware they were meant to give an apology. They did not give an apology. They are now being misrepresented by the organisation for which they work. They have done that and have made it clear in writing to their bosses that they did not. It continues...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Jan 2016)

John Deasy: I do think that-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Jan 2016)

John Deasy: Can I clarify that we will arrange a meeting for next Tuesday and ask the HSE to come before the committee, and that that request will go to the HSE today?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Jan 2016)

John Deasy: And possibly the person who drafted the two-page rebuttal to the Irish Examiner. That would be helpful as well.

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Chapter 13 - The Development of Eircode, the National Postcode System
(28 Jan 2016)

John Deasy: I welcome Mr. Griffin and his officials here today. I will not take too long but I have a couple of issues I wish to raise with him. I will start with something far less controversial than procurement, namely, wind turbines. That was a joke. I gave notification through the clerk that I would be raising this issue. I do not expect the Secretary General to get into policy and I will not...

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Chapter 13 - The Development of Eircode, the National Postcode System
(28 Jan 2016)

John Deasy: That is the key.

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Chapter 13 - The Development of Eircode, the National Postcode System
(28 Jan 2016)

John Deasy: That is what is missing.

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Chapter 13 - The Development of Eircode, the National Postcode System
(28 Jan 2016)

John Deasy: What Mr. Griffin is saying is the noise issue was not really dealt with as comprehensively as it should have been in the guidelines and that there is work to be done in that regard, which is critical. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Chapter 13 - The Development of Eircode, the National Postcode System
(28 Jan 2016)

John Deasy: That is significant for those involved who are affected by this issue.

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Chapter 13 - The Development of Eircode, the National Postcode System
(28 Jan 2016)

John Deasy: What Mr. Griffin is saying is that it is too simplistic to just pick a number, that noise considerations need to come to the fore and that it would probably be better to make a decision on the siting of wind turbines on that basis. Is that a fair point?

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Chapter 13 - The Development of Eircode, the National Postcode System
(28 Jan 2016)

John Deasy: Mr. Griffin has filled the vacuum in this area. It is important, given his continuity in office, that this direction be verbalised. There has been a deficiency in the public conversation on this issue in that it has focused almost entirely on the setback distance. That is what has been reported on, but that should not be the case. Mr. Griffin has just clarified that there is a bigger...

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Chapter 13 - The Development of Eircode, the National Postcode System
(28 Jan 2016)

John Deasy: I thank Mr. Griffin for his clarification of the issue. I may not be a member of the next Committee of Public Accounts-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Chapter 13 - The Development of Eircode, the National Postcode System
(28 Jan 2016)

John Deasy: I must be re-elected first. I hope there will be continuity on this issue, given what Mr. Griffin has said. Regardless of what happens following the general election, I hope he will follow through on what he has said. The argument has been slightly distorted. Issues such as sleep disturbance and associated health issues need to be taken seriously. I would not be raising this unless I...

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Chapter 13 - The Development of Eircode, the National Postcode System
(28 Jan 2016)

John Deasy: If that is the genuinely held view in the Department, should we consider putting some of the proposals on hold until we determine those guidelines and what the potential health impacts are on individuals? Is it not important for the Department to know where it stands evidentially when it comes to health-based outcomes for individuals before it proceeds with further proposals and...

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Chapter 13 - The Development of Eircode, the National Postcode System
(28 Jan 2016)

John Deasy: I can find one that categorically contradicts it.

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Chapter 13 - The Development of Eircode, the National Postcode System
(28 Jan 2016)

John Deasy: I do not want to get into EMF. Mr. Griffin said where he was at and where his thinking was on this issue. It is something that has been dealt with and is complete within Government. I just think we should consider making evidentially-based decisions with regard to the impacts on people's health of the noise from wind turbines before we launch ourselves into any more of them. It is...

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Chapter 13 - The Development of Eircode, the National Postcode System
(28 Jan 2016)

John Deasy: That is fine. I understand there is an impetus within the Department to actually get this rolled out. If I take the west of my county of Waterford, the lack of speed is killing businesses there. It is killing the growth of existing businesses and the establishment of new ones. I deal with the issue alongside the county manager a great deal. I try to get him involved and he does so...

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Chapter 13 - The Development of Eircode, the National Postcode System
(28 Jan 2016)

John Deasy: Did the Chairman mention Kilkenny yet?

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Chapter 13 - The Development of Eircode, the National Postcode System
(28 Jan 2016)

John Deasy: It does not just affect my constituency, it affects every rural constituency. Mr. Griffin knows this. I am trying to emphasise its importance. Frankly, when it comes to many of the most recent cases, I have failed to help these individuals because it is outside of my power. We end up with no real improvement in the service in many cases, which is devastating for some businesses.

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Energy and Natural Resources
Chapter 13 - The Development of Eircode, the National Postcode System
(28 Jan 2016)

John Deasy: I thank Mr. Griffin and apologise to the Chairman for being overly parochial occasionally.

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