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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

John Lahart: I can take an interpretation put on the Mary Aikenhead values from the extreme end but it seems even a humanist could stand over the values.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

John Lahart: They are not Catholic doctrine.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

John Lahart: I assume the existing private end to the public hospital will reflect the history of the contribution. All of that cannot be cancelled but the new maternity hospital will have no reference to any of that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

John Lahart: Why did the nuns not decide to sell the site? They were getting out and they could have sold it to another healthcare group.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

John Lahart: I presume the religious sisters established the hospital back in the day.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

John Lahart: As religious numbers began to diminish, they brought in a lay element to help them run it. Twenty years ago that was set up into the formal St. Vincent's Healthcare Group.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

John Lahart: Were the nuns there at that stage?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

John Lahart: They are now gone as board members.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

John Lahart: I am just trying to be objective. They could say, essentially, that what they have done with having a rent of €10 a year is that this is a gift to the State because there is no cost to it but the State does not own the land in perpetuity. The HSE has a lease on it for 299 years. What was that transition from the Religious Sisters of Charity into the St Vincent's Healthcare Group...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

John Lahart: That evolution from the sisters being exclusively in charge and then the establishment of the St. Vincent's Healthcare Group, which essentially took over from the Religious Sisters of Charity-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

John Lahart: That group has a Catholic flavour to it and there is nothing wrong with that. This is what Deputy Bríd Smith was asking about. Is the spirit that permeates that influential in anything the healthcare group does?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

John Lahart: I presume the Religious Sisters of Charity believe they have handed their legacy into good hands.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

John Lahart: Is it into hands that reflect their particular denominational ethos now? Did it reflect that and does it now?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

John Lahart: That is a kind of legacy.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

John Lahart: Okay.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

John Lahart: That is an important point. I suppose it is subjective as to whether people believe it or not.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

John Lahart: The Religious Sisters of Charity had quite a formidable footprint in healthcare in that part of Dublin. Their numbers were diminishing and they wanted to ensure their legacy in healthcare was not forgotten even though they were handing it over to an organisation and structure that over time would simply reflect the Religious Sisters of Charity's values of dignity and compassion but not their...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

John Lahart: Regarding the number of terminations, I have the last figures available for them. The Minister is obliged to get those. There were more than 6,500 terminations in 2020, 2,414 of those were in Dublin and only 1.8% of those took place in a hospital setting, which leaves approximately 10% of those, the figure Mr. Menton mentioned, having taken place in St. Vincent's. Given that it is not...

Strike Action by the Medical Laboratory Scientists Association: Motion [Private Members] (25 May 2022)

John Lahart: I thank Deputy Naughten. I apologise again for bypassing him earlier.

Written Answers — Department of Justice and Equality: Crime Prevention (24 May 2022)

John Lahart: 67. To ask the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice and Equality the action that she is taking to tackle repeat offending; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [26071/22]

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