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Seanad: Housing: Statements (26 Sep 2019)

Gerry Horkan: I thank him for his comprehensive reply. When is it proposed to sit again?

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2019: Committee Stage (Resumed) (2 Oct 2019)

Gerry Horkan: Senator Higgins, please allow the Minister to respond.

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2019: Committee Stage (Resumed) (2 Oct 2019)

Gerry Horkan: The Senator has made her point. I get the impression the Minister feels she cannot accept the amendment.

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2019: Committee Stage (Resumed) (2 Oct 2019)

Gerry Horkan: To be fair to the Minister, she is trying to say that there will be ample scrutiny in the relevant Oireachtas committee, the Dáil and the Seanad-----

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2019: Committee Stage (Resumed) (2 Oct 2019)

Gerry Horkan: She cannot give the Senator a guarantee that there will be a report within three months of the passing of this Bill on something that has not yet been finalised. I am not here to speak for the Minister but we have had the debate and we could go round in circles for a while longer. Does the Senator wish to press her amendment?

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2019: Committee Stage (Resumed) (2 Oct 2019)

Gerry Horkan: Is the Senator withdrawing the amendment?

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2019: Committee Stage (Resumed) (2 Oct 2019)

Gerry Horkan: What does the Senator want to do with the amendment?

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2019: Committee Stage (Resumed) (2 Oct 2019)

Gerry Horkan: Does the Minister want to add any further?

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2019: Committee Stage (Resumed) (2 Oct 2019)

Gerry Horkan: We are not having a chat here. Everybody should address their remarks through the Chair.

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2019: Committee Stage (Resumed) (2 Oct 2019)

Gerry Horkan: Is Senator Higgins pressing her amendment?

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2019: Committee Stage (Resumed) (2 Oct 2019)

Gerry Horkan: Amendment No. 33 is in the name of Senator Higgins. What does the Senator want to do in this respect?

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2019: Committee Stage (Resumed) (2 Oct 2019)

Gerry Horkan: I had moved on. The Senator did not call for a vote on the previous amendment.

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2019: Committee Stage (Resumed) (2 Oct 2019)

Gerry Horkan: We had moved on.

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2019: Committee Stage (Resumed) (2 Oct 2019)

Gerry Horkan: I know and I said those in favour say "Tá" and those against say "Níl" and that the question was defeated, and then I moved on to amendment No. 33 and nobody had said "Vótáil".

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2019: Committee Stage (Resumed) (2 Oct 2019)

Gerry Horkan: We had. I had said: "amendment No. 33 is in the name of Senator Higgins" so we had moved on.

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2019: Committee Stage (Resumed) (2 Oct 2019)

Gerry Horkan: People regularly indicate they want to press an amendment, they press it, look for a voice vote, lose it and move on. They do not always call for a full 20-minute vote.

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2019: Committee Stage (Resumed) (2 Oct 2019)

Gerry Horkan: There is a difference between pressing an amendment and calling for a vote. There will be ample opportunity to call for a vote. There are another 11 amendments.

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2019: Committee Stage (Resumed) (2 Oct 2019)

Gerry Horkan: On the basis of the previous 31 amendments, I think it was a reasonable assumption to make.

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2019: Committee Stage (Resumed) (2 Oct 2019)

Gerry Horkan: I did wait. I was expecting a vótáil but nobody said "vótáil", so I said "amendment No. 33". We are on amendment No. 33 and the Senator has acknowledged that. The rules of the House are the rules. I am not here to change them for my benefit, the Senator's benefit or anyone's benefit. I think we have moved on. The Senator is more than welcome to introduce amendment...

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2019: Committee Stage (Resumed) (2 Oct 2019)

Gerry Horkan: We are on Committee Stage and the Senator can seek to come back on it at another Stage.

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