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Written Answers — Department of Education and Skills: Third Level Education (8 Dec 2020)

Rose Conway-Walsh: 469. To ask the Minister for Education and Skills the status of the economic evaluation of the funding options presented in the Report of the Expert Group on Future Funding for Higher Education by the European Commission DG Reform Programme; when he expects the evaluation to be complete; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [41345/20]

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Rose Conway-Walsh: My thanks to the Chairman and the Minister of State. I wish to clarify some things. It seems €18.5 million of the €43.5 million needed to fund the support will come under the B11 heading. That is the budget line for SUSI. Will the Minister of State confirm that this is in addition to, and totally separate from, the €20 million in additional support for SUSI announced...

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Rose Conway-Walsh: It is in addition.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Rose Conway-Walsh: That is good. Today, we are considering the supplementary sum of €43.5 million in addition to the expenditure of €220 million. However, the initial announcement on 13 October in parallel with budget 2021 was for €50 million. Were savings made in that? Why is there a difference between the two figures?

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Rose Conway-Walsh: What are those savings from within the Department?

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Rose Conway-Walsh: That is okay. Are we dealing with €43.5 million or the €50 million?

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Rose Conway-Walsh: For clarity, if it requires €50 million, must we come back again?

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Rose Conway-Walsh: How will that be?

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Rose Conway-Walsh: The national training fund is for apprenticeships, is it?

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Rose Conway-Walsh: I have concerns around the take up of that, as I know the Minister of State and the Minister have. It is almost a defeatist attitude if we are saying that we will save that much on it at this stage. I will move on to the eligibility of all full-time third level students. When the Minister of State uses the term "full-time third-level education", he is not including any of the students...

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Rose Conway-Walsh: How was it decided who would and would not get that?

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Rose Conway-Walsh: It causes me concern. Many students from lower income families take up PLC courses and other types of courses. It concerns me that they might be excluded from this. Will the Minister of State re-examine this?

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Rose Conway-Walsh: I appreciate some do but some do not. It should be looked at. Take someone in Louth who is studying in Belfast or in Donegal studying in Derry, will they get it?

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Rose Conway-Walsh: It does not matter where they study, then. Is that also the case for someone studying abroad, say in The Netherlands?

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Rose Conway-Walsh: Again, that is an anomaly when we are trying to encourage an all-island approach to education. Where someone is a final-year student and is in the category of having everything paid, how will that be done?

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Rose Conway-Walsh: Is there a time line by which that will be done, and the cash refunds issued?

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Rose Conway-Walsh: The Department will intervene if someone is not getting paid, albeit that it is giving the colleges autonomy on this.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Rose Conway-Walsh: I apologise, I must leave now to attend a meeting of the Committee on the Implementation of the Good Friday Agreement. I thank the Minister of State.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Implementation of the Good Friday Agreement: The Northern Ireland Economy: Discussion (8 Dec 2020)

Rose Conway-Walsh: I thank Senator McGahon for giving way.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Implementation of the Good Friday Agreement: The Northern Ireland Economy: Discussion (8 Dec 2020)

Rose Conway-Walsh: Absolutely. I am forever indebted.

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