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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Alan Dillon: Could I get some detail about that?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Alan Dillon: Again, I thank the witnesses for joining us and taking time out to engage with the committee. Mr. Bakhurst said in his opening statement that the matters at the heart of the McCann Fitzgerald report may not have come to light without the work of the Oireachtas committee. To us sitting on this side that is a strange thing to say. Does he agree?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Alan Dillon: Surely the issue would have been brought to light by Ms Cusack. Did she communicate to you on the basis of what was raised by Breda O'Keeffe at that committee meeting?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Alan Dillon: What was the cost to RTÉ of the voluntary exit package?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Alan Dillon: For Breda O'Keeffe.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Alan Dillon: I think it is really important, Mr. Bakhurst, that you put that into the public domain, because this is pretty important. You are building a new RTÉ. It needs to be transparent. It needs to be trustworthy and to have integrity. We also need to see accountability. You are under privilege here, and it is in the public interest that you provide that information to the committee.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Alan Dillon: I accept that.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Alan Dillon: Will you repeat that?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Alan Dillon: This question is for Ms Cusack. How many times have you signed off on a package in excess of €400,000?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Alan Dillon: This is the only one at this scale.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Alan Dillon: Were you for responsible the management of the recruitment and appointment of Breda O'Keeffe's replacement CFO?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Alan Dillon: In terms of the appointment and business case you were exposed to, this was an internal appointment. Is that correct?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Alan Dillon: The role was not suppressed. Is that correct?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Alan Dillon: The business plan, therefore, was not credible. It was unworthy.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Alan Dillon: We are asking Ms Cusack about the actual business plan. A lot of what was contained in the business plan did not stand up with regard to the recruitment process and the appointment you were making.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Alan Dillon: How do you authorise a financial transaction in excess of €400,000? What steps are taken within RTÉ to authorise this?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Alan Dillon: Will you describe that process?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Alan Dillon: Who in payroll was aware of this package?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Alan Dillon: That would be on the authorisation of the HR director.

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