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Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(2 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: It is not overseeing the money now, according to what I have learned.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(2 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: I will submit a question.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Business of Select Committee (1 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: In accordance with Standing Orders, as a quarter of an hour has passed since the time appointed for today’s meeting and there is no quorum present, the meeting of the committee stands adjourned. Deputy Canney is here, but unfortunately we do not have anybody else. I propose that we put this meeting to next week. We will reorganise the witnesses that we had proposed for next week at...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Business of Select Committee (1 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: No, and I do not envisage that we will meet it. There is a particular debate in the Dáil at the moment that I think is distracting people from their committee work. I apologise for the inconvenience and I am about to go out and apologise to our witnesses. I now adjourn this meeting until next Wednesday.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Business of Select Committee (8 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: Apologies have been received from Deputy Doherty. All those present are asked to exercise personal responsibility to protect themselves and others from the risk of contracting Covid-19. I propose that we go into private session to deal with some housekeeping matters. Is that agreed? Agreed.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Report of the Commission on Taxation and Welfare: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: I welcome Mr. Gerard Brady from the Irish Business and Employers Confederation, IBEC, and Mr. Ian Talbot and Mr. Shane Conneely from Chambers Ireland. Before we begin, I wish to explain some limitations to parliamentary privilege and the practice of the Houses as regards references witnesses may make to other persons in their evidence. The evidence of witnesses physically present or who...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Report of the Commission on Taxation and Welfare: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: I thank Mr. Brady and Mr. Talbot for their submissions.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Report of the Commission on Taxation and Welfare: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: Deputy Farrell's time is up.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Report of the Commission on Taxation and Welfare: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: I hope that answers the Deputy's question.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Report of the Commission on Taxation and Welfare: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: I think the tax we pay absolutely falls within this committee's remit.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Report of the Commission on Taxation and Welfare: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: I have some questions. I want to focus a little on working age payments, and what the report has to say on that. We have spoken in previous sessions about whether we are getting it right, or if there is sufficient communication between Departments around how they work together, and what it looks like on the ground for particular families. Would the witnesses like to make some overall...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Report of the Commission on Taxation and Welfare: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: Particularly from a gender perspective, that definitely affects women. They are risk averse when it comes to messing with benefits. You have spoken a little about the annual merry-go-round of the budget and supports for businesses that maybe do not work by the time the finance Bill comes along. Sometimes that also seems to happen for some social protection schemes. They have an unintended...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Report of the Commission on Taxation and Welfare: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: Does Mr. Brady think it is realistic to have a three-year roadmap for SME tax policy? The reason I ask is that our corporation tax policy is pretty static insofar as everybody knows where everybody sits on this. Even if it does go to 15%, everybody accepts that we will be dragged kicking and screaming. The 12.5% is there. The centre of the debate is fixed, but not so much with SME tax...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Report of the Commission on Taxation and Welfare: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: Would there be a need-----

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Report of the Commission on Taxation and Welfare: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: Go ahead.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Report of the Commission on Taxation and Welfare: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: They were not happy.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Report of the Commission on Taxation and Welfare: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: I like to think the carbon tax roadmap is there to inform the public, but in fact it is mostly to inform other politicians that this is happening, that they cannot argue with it and that we have locked it in at the start. If this is to work, is it envisaged that a more robust forum would be needed for the business community to support it? Notwithstanding the importance of public...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Report of the Commission on Taxation and Welfare: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: Will Mr. Brady expand on that point?

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Report of the Commission on Taxation and Welfare: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: Time is an accordion for Covid.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Report of the Commission on Taxation and Welfare: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: I might just finish off by asking the witnesses if they would like to comment on any of the recommendations on PRSI in the document. I am particularly thinking of the one in Chapter 9 around, "... employer Pay Related Social Insurance (PRSI) on share-based remuneration should be limited through the introduction of an appropriate annual cap or, alternatively, by restricting the exemption to...

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