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Written Answers — Department of Health: Dental Services (28 Mar 2023)

Verona Murphy: 660. To ask the Minister for Health if a decision has been made by his Department and the HSE that no additional dentists or dental team members will be hired under the €5 million funding announced in Budget 2023 to address backlogs in the HSE public dental service; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [14819/23]

Written Answers — Department of Health: Health Services Staff (28 Mar 2023)

Verona Murphy: 673. To ask the Minister for Health the plans that are in place to include nurses studying and training under a sponsorship scheme in the travel and subsistence scheme; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [14909/23]

Written Answers — Department of Health: Primary Care Centres (28 Mar 2023)

Verona Murphy: 738. To ask the Minister for Health to provide an update on the provision of a primary care centre in New Ross, County Wexford; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [15383/23]

Written Answers — Department of Education and Skills: Departmental Funding (30 Mar 2023)

Verona Murphy: 69. To ask the Minister for Education and Skills the Budget for the near zero energy building training centres of excellence; if that budget has been drawn down; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [10516/23]

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 42 - Rural and Community Development
Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2021
Chapter 6: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(30 Mar 2023)

Verona Murphy: I thank the witnesses for coming in. I think Ms Hurley is probably the first female Secretary General to appear before the committee, so well done on that. I can see a significant difference - albeit I may be biased, being a female - in the presentation. I am delighted with that. I go back to what we started with in relation to Mayo County Council. It is positive, from my perspective...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 42 - Rural and Community Development
Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2021
Chapter 6: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(30 Mar 2023)

Verona Murphy: Given that there are standards in public office, this clearly was a breach of ethics or standards. Have we gone beyond making a complaint in this regard? I understand why it did not go to An Garda Síochána because there was no loss of Exchequer funding but the transaction itself or the behaviour probably warranted a complaint to SIPO.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 42 - Rural and Community Development
Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2021
Chapter 6: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(30 Mar 2023)

Verona Murphy: I appreciate that and I do not want Ms Hurley to repeat herself. I commend her and I hear what she is saying. From an accountability perspective, preventative measures are probably easier to enforce if there has been a repercussion and accountability. With regard to making a complaint to SIPO, I ask that Ms Hurley look at the time limit to see whether it has passed. If the Department is...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 42 - Rural and Community Development
Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2021
Chapter 6: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(30 Mar 2023)

Verona Murphy: Does Ms Hurley think that going forward it probably should be? The Standards In Public Office Commission is something that we should use as a measure of the persons or particular standards being accounted for, particularly at county council level given the level of funding that is attributed to them.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 42 - Rural and Community Development
Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2021
Chapter 6: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(30 Mar 2023)

Verona Murphy: Unless we start to have regard to SIPO's findings, it is pointless. If there are findings but no adverse repercussions, or no repercussion at all, it is a rather pointless system. We certainly need to overhaul the entire system. To come back to the point I was making, Ms Hurley said there was funding of €180 million for the current LEADER programme. My understanding is the...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 42 - Rural and Community Development
Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2021
Chapter 6: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(30 Mar 2023)

Verona Murphy: Would it be fair to say that if the same €50,000 is allocated to every proposal, it would go a lot further in a local authority that has already completed this process than it would for a body making a new expression of interest?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 42 - Rural and Community Development
Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2021
Chapter 6: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(30 Mar 2023)

Verona Murphy: Ms Hurley has misunderstood my question. A council would have so much experience in making expressions of interest that the €50,000 would not go as far for a new entity. What I mean is that it is probably not a fair competition in that the county council has been there before and has all the experience. I am not sure that all the proposals needed to go to phase 2. Will Ms Hurley...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 42 - Rural and Community Development
Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2021
Chapter 6: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(30 Mar 2023)

Verona Murphy: In assessing them do they automatically go to phase 2?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 42 - Rural and Community Development
Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2021
Chapter 6: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(30 Mar 2023)

Verona Murphy: That is where the €50,000 comes in.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 42 - Rural and Community Development
Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2021
Chapter 6: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(30 Mar 2023)

Verona Murphy: The old programme was delivered by the county councils.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 42 - Rural and Community Development
Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2021
Chapter 6: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(30 Mar 2023)

Verona Murphy: Are the local authorities compensated for their administration time? Do they receive funding?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 42 - Rural and Community Development
Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2021
Chapter 6: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(30 Mar 2023)

Verona Murphy: What was the figure?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 42 - Rural and Community Development
Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2021
Chapter 6: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(30 Mar 2023)

Verona Murphy: I suppose strictly speaking we would be better cutting out the middleman, which is the local authorities. They already administer large funds. From my perspective, particularly with regard to Wexford, I can see where we have a very efficient local development group and there should not be a penny wasted. It is perfectly capable of administrating it. I would like it to be a consideration...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 42 - Rural and Community Development
Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2021
Chapter 6: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(30 Mar 2023)

Verona Murphy: I am almost out of time but I want to ask one quick question on assessment by county. How does Wexford perform on applications for the RRDF in comparison with other counties? Does the Department do analysis on a county-by-county basis?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 42 - Rural and Community Development
Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2021
Chapter 6: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(30 Mar 2023)

Verona Murphy: Could Ms Hurley provide that to the committee? I am specifically interested in Wexford, but if Ms Hurley feels she can provide the data for all counties, she may do so.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 42 - Rural and Community Development
Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2021
Chapter 6: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(30 Mar 2023)

Verona Murphy: The Department must have an analysis or star rating as to who is performing better and who is not.

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