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Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: National Lottery Bill 2012: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: No. The Deputy should respect the rulings of the Chair.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: National Lottery Bill 2012: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: The ruling of the Chair is that if the Deputy wants to table an amendment, he should do so on Report Stage.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: National Lottery Bill 2012: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: It should relate to the section.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: National Lottery Bill 2012: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: I am inviting the Deputy to continue. Does he wish to continue?

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: National Lottery Bill 2012: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: Before I ask the Minister to reply, I have a question that needs to be clarified. In respect of the appointment of the regulator, can a person be recruited from either the private or the public sector?

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: National Lottery Bill 2012: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: So the person appointed as regulator could be a senior public servant in the Revenue Commissioners or in any other area, or could be a chief executive officer of one of the gambling houses in Ireland - a poacher-turned-gamekeeper, for want of a better example?

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: National Lottery Bill 2012: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: At the end of the period, be it the seven-year period or an extension of that, one could have a senior public servant returning to the Department or a senior person from the private sector returning to the private sector.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: National Lottery Bill 2012: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: I will bring in the Deputy again.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: National Lottery Bill 2012: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: It may happen above in the Chamber during Minister's questions, but I try to operate a different culture here when we are in committee.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: National Lottery Bill 2012: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: I might need a cooling-off period here for five or ten minutes, besides the issue we are debating.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: National Lottery Bill 2012: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: Perhaps the Minister and the Deputy would refer to the amendment.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: National Lottery Bill 2012: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: Deputy McDonald, please.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: National Lottery Bill 2012: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: Deputy McDonald, I am on my feet. I do not want to suspend the meeting, but as soon as I rise to my feet I must ask you to respect the Chair, regardless of what opinion you may have with regard to other members of the committee. You will respect this Chair. Is that agreed?

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: National Lottery Bill 2012: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: When I am on my feet, what does that mean? It means that members desist from talking. Let us establish the basic rules before the committee continues. I will sit down and make a ruling. I will give the Deputy time to facilitate her response to the Minister. I will ask both the Deputy and the Minister to refrain from referring to personal styles. I will ask the Minister to respond to the...

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: National Lottery Bill 2012: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: Amendments Nos. 11, 40 and 41 are related and will be discussed together.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: National Lottery Bill 2012: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: Amendments Nos. 13 and 14 are being taken together. If amendment No. 13 is agreed to, amendment No. 14 cannot be moved.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: National Lottery Bill 2012: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: I note the section is opposed by Deputy MacDonald.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: National Lottery Bill 2012: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: From tracking the discussion on this, I understand the Bill prior to this amendment did not provide a timeline or process for game approvals in the system. Is that correct?

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: National Lottery Bill 2012: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: I understand the Bill prior to this amendment did not include a timeline or a process for games approvals in the system.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: National Lottery Bill 2012: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2013)

Ciarán Lynch: There were regulatory difficulties with that. If a new game was put into the lottery process such as a different type of scratch card or something like that it would have to be in sequence with the regulator. This amendment corrects that. Is the Minister indicating it does not correct that?

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