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Seanad: Order of Business (22 Apr 2008)

David Norris: Fine.

Seanad: Order of Business (22 Apr 2008)

David Norris: To be fair, a Chathaoirligh, I gave Senator O'Toole advance warning of that little one. He made some arcane whispers to me about the need for a treaty that could be turned over two pages at a time, like the Book of Kells.

Seanad: Order of Business (22 Apr 2008)

David Norris: I have attempted to look at this treaty.

Seanad: Order of Business (22 Apr 2008)

David Norris: The closer I look at it, the less I like it. We know that 96% of it is the failed European constitution. If we are so democratic, why are we the only one of the 27 member states to give voters an opportunity to vote on the treaty? If it is such a wonderful thing and everyone knows it is right, why are we afraid to let people vote? Why do we have a new blossoming of European megalocrats,...

Seanad: Order of Business (22 Apr 2008)

David Norris: It is an extraordinary thing that the Christian religions should want not to be covered by that legislation.

Seanad: Order of Business (22 Apr 2008)

David Norris: When the Commissioner came to this country, he gave undertakings to a small unrepresentative clique of people in the same way as we got the protocol on abortion in a previous treaty. That is not very democratic. I am making my way through the treaty. I have not yet decided how I will vote, although I am pretty close to deciding on a "No" vote.

Seanad: Order of Business (22 Apr 2008)

David Norris: I am entitled to do that. I will distance myself from anyone who attacks an elected representative. I deplore the attack on Proinsias de Rossa, MEP.

Seanad: Order of Business (22 Apr 2008)

David Norris: I also deplore the condescension that has been doled out to people who may honourably, decently and with integrity take a different view. That is not democracy, nor representative of the Europe in which I want to be. I want to be in a social Europe, not a neoliberal economic mess.

Seanad: Order of Business (22 Apr 2008)

David Norris: We are promised them and half the time they cancel them.

Seanad: Order of Business (22 Apr 2008)

David Norris: UNICEF has reproached her as well for inappropriate and inaccurate use of——

Seanad: Order of Business (22 Apr 2008)

David Norris: Let us come back to that.

Seanad: Order of Business (22 Apr 2008)

David Norris: I did not say that; that is rubbish.

Seanad: Order of Business (22 Apr 2008)

David Norris: That remark should be withdrawn at once.

Seanad: Order of Business (22 Apr 2008)

David Norris: Excuse me, I am sorry, this is a democratic State and that is a most dangerous accusation to make about a legally established body and its chairman. It is outrageous and I demand that it be withdrawn.

Seanad: Order of Business (22 Apr 2008)

David Norris: The Senator has made serious criminal charges.

Seanad: Order of Business (22 Apr 2008)

David Norris: I have asked the Cathaoirleach to rule that that remark be withdrawn. Will he give a ruling on it?

Seanad: Order of Business (22 Apr 2008)

David Norris: We now have an extremely serious situation. Senator Callanan has said that he is telling the truth, in defiance of the Cathaoirleach's authority. It is a very serious constitutional matter.

Seanad: Order of Business (23 Apr 2008)

David Norris: Try them on President Sarkozy.

Seanad: Order of Business (23 Apr 2008)

David Norris: If the Senator was so helpful, why was he not equally helpful about my contribution on Iran?

Seanad: Order of Business (23 Apr 2008)

David Norris: Hear, hear.

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