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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: -----and then comes to us, in that timeline. I presume we will get it sometime in April and then we can resume our consideration of the issues. No. 3B.7 is correspondence, dated 26 February 2013, from Mr. Gerry Mullins, chief executive, Coach Tourism and Transport Council of Ireland, regarding the school transport scheme, to be noted. This issue is relevant to today's meeting and can be...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: Will there be further correspondence coming back on this issue?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: No. 3B.9 is correspondence, dated 26 February 2013, from Mr. Seán Ó Foghlú, Secretary General, Department of Education and Skills, re correspondence forwarded by the committee regarding University College Cork, to be noted. No. 3B.10 is correspondence, dated 27 February 2013, from Mr. Seán Ó Foghlú, Secretary General, Department of Education and Skills, re...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: It will be of interest to the parties who will want to see that. It will be noted and published. No. 3C is correspondence re documents relating to today's committee meeting. No. 3C.1 is correspondence, dated 22 February 2013, from Mr. Seán Ó Foghlú, Secretary General of the Department of Education and Skills, re briefing paper on matters to be considered at this meeting,...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: -----outlining the work of the last committee, bringing it up to date in terms of the stabilisation issue relative to the Comptroller and Auditor General's report. The report will take into account current matters regarding the ending of the guarantee and so on. We will agree the appointment of a rapporteur who will review the transcripts of evidence and the papers and records in our...

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Financial Commitments under Public Private Partnerships
Chapter 18 - Salary Overpayments to Teachers
Vote 26 - Department of Education and Skills
(28 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: We will be discussing the 2011 appropriation accounts and annual report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, chapter 6, financial commitments under public private partnerships; chapter 18, salary overpayments to teachers, and Vote 26 - Department of Education and Skills. Before we begin I remind members, witnesses and those in the Public Gallery that all mobile phones must be switched off...

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Financial Commitments under Public Private Partnerships
Chapter 18 - Salary Overpayments to Teachers
Vote 26 - Department of Education and Skills
(28 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: I ask the witnesses from the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform to introduce themselves.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Financial Commitments under Public Private Partnerships
Chapter 18 - Salary Overpayments to Teachers
Vote 26 - Department of Education and Skills
(28 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: The witnesses are all very welcome. I now ask the Comptroller and Auditor General to introduce the accounts.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Financial Commitments under Public Private Partnerships
Chapter 18 - Salary Overpayments to Teachers
Vote 26 - Department of Education and Skills
(28 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: I thank Mr. Mc Carthy and call on Mr. Ó Foghlú to make his opening statement.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Financial Commitments under Public Private Partnerships
Chapter 18 - Salary Overpayments to Teachers
Vote 26 - Department of Education and Skills
(28 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: Can we publish the statement?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Financial Commitments under Public Private Partnerships
Chapter 18 - Salary Overpayments to Teachers
Vote 26 - Department of Education and Skills
(28 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: Before calling on Deputy Dowds, I wish to clarify a matter raised by Deputy Donohoe, namely, school transport. What is the level of departmental intervention with Bus Éireann as regards the running of the contract? Does the Department reorganise routes with Bus Éireann or does the former issue instructions and rules? What is the company's reporting mechanism to the Department in...

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Financial Commitments under Public Private Partnerships
Chapter 18 - Salary Overpayments to Teachers
Vote 26 - Department of Education and Skills
(28 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: What is the arrangement? Is it a written arrangement?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Financial Commitments under Public Private Partnerships
Chapter 18 - Salary Overpayments to Teachers
Vote 26 - Department of Education and Skills
(28 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: That is not a contract.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Financial Commitments under Public Private Partnerships
Chapter 18 - Salary Overpayments to Teachers
Vote 26 - Department of Education and Skills
(28 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: Was it signed by the Department and Bus Éireann?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Financial Commitments under Public Private Partnerships
Chapter 18 - Salary Overpayments to Teachers
Vote 26 - Department of Education and Skills
(28 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: If Mr. Ó Foghlú would, please.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Financial Commitments under Public Private Partnerships
Chapter 18 - Salary Overpayments to Teachers
Vote 26 - Department of Education and Skills
(28 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: The policy decisions are laid down by the Minister.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Financial Commitments under Public Private Partnerships
Chapter 18 - Salary Overpayments to Teachers
Vote 26 - Department of Education and Skills
(28 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: The Minister gets down and dirty as regards this aspect of the agreement. The collection-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Financial Commitments under Public Private Partnerships
Chapter 18 - Salary Overpayments to Teachers
Vote 26 - Department of Education and Skills
(28 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: I understand that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Financial Commitments under Public Private Partnerships
Chapter 18 - Salary Overpayments to Teachers
Vote 26 - Department of Education and Skills
(28 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: Bus Éireann puts in place a route that it believes is the most efficient.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 6 - Financial Commitments under Public Private Partnerships
Chapter 18 - Salary Overpayments to Teachers
Vote 26 - Department of Education and Skills
(28 Feb 2013)

John McGuinness: It arranges collection points and so on. This is the national transport expertise to which Mr. Ó Foghlú referred.

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