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Written Answers — Department of Justice and Equality: Garda Deployment (5 Nov 2015)

John Deasy: 156. To ask the Minister for Justice and Equality the current deployment levels of gardaí and civilian staff, by district and by station, within the Waterford and Kilkenny-Carlow Garda division; and the number of gardaí allocated to this division in each of the past five years. [38918/15]

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Nov 2015)

John Deasy: With regard to the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform and the Office of Government Procurement, the committee had suggested - or maybe I did not - that when the representatives from the Office of Government Procurement appear at the committee we should deal with the tendering arrangements for the Aran Islands air service, the construction of the contract and the tenders within the...

Public Accounts Committee: Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General 2014
Vote 21: Prisons
Vote 24: Department of Justice and Equality
Chapter 9: Development of Prison Accommodation in Dublin
(5 Nov 2015)

John Deasy: May I put a question, Chairman?

Public Accounts Committee: Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General 2014
Vote 21: Prisons
Vote 24: Department of Justice and Equality
Chapter 9: Development of Prison Accommodation in Dublin
(5 Nov 2015)

John Deasy: Mr. Waters indicated that the process of finding a new Secretary General will be gone through again when the "time is right". What exactly does that mean? Surely, within any Department, particularly a Department like Justice and Equality, we should seek to have the post of Secretary General filled in a permanent capacity?

Public Accounts Committee: Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General 2014
Vote 21: Prisons
Vote 24: Department of Justice and Equality
Chapter 9: Development of Prison Accommodation in Dublin
(5 Nov 2015)

John Deasy: However, Mr. Waters will know the institutional history with regard to a Department like Justice and Equality. He is there long enough. Has a situation ever arisen previously where there was a lapse or gap?

Public Accounts Committee: Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General 2014
Vote 21: Prisons
Vote 24: Department of Justice and Equality
Chapter 9: Development of Prison Accommodation in Dublin
(5 Nov 2015)

John Deasy: That is fine.

Public Accounts Committee: Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General 2014
Vote 21: Prisons
Vote 24: Department of Justice and Equality
Chapter 9: Development of Prison Accommodation in Dublin
(5 Nov 2015)

John Deasy: I am not questioning that at all.

Public Accounts Committee: Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General 2014
Vote 21: Prisons
Vote 24: Department of Justice and Equality
Chapter 9: Development of Prison Accommodation in Dublin
(5 Nov 2015)

John Deasy: However, Mr. Waters is completely in the dark in terms of when and if the appointment process will be restarted?

Public Accounts Committee: Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General 2014
Vote 21: Prisons
Vote 24: Department of Justice and Equality
Chapter 9: Development of Prison Accommodation in Dublin
(5 Nov 2015)

John Deasy: It is not a policy matter; it is purely an administrative issue for the Department of Justice and Equality.

Public Accounts Committee: Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General 2014
Vote 21: Prisons
Vote 24: Department of Justice and Equality
Chapter 9: Development of Prison Accommodation in Dublin
(5 Nov 2015)

John Deasy: That is fair enough. Thank you, Mr. Waters.

Public Accounts Committee: Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General 2014
Vote 21: Prisons
Vote 24: Department of Justice and Equality
Chapter 9: Development of Prison Accommodation in Dublin
(5 Nov 2015)

John Deasy: It probably says more about individuals than it does the Department.

Public Accounts Committee: Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General 2014
Vote 21: Prisons
Vote 24: Department of Justice and Equality
Chapter 9: Development of Prison Accommodation in Dublin
(5 Nov 2015)

John Deasy: Has somebody filled in for Mr. Waters in his previous role in the immigration service, or does Mr. Waters continue to perform it?

Public Accounts Committee: Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General 2014
Vote 21: Prisons
Vote 24: Department of Justice and Equality
Chapter 9: Development of Prison Accommodation in Dublin
(5 Nov 2015)

John Deasy: The reality is that this Administration is coming to its end. Nothing will happen until after the next election. Effectively, it is a political appointee. That is really what we are talking about. We are talking about another six months.

Public Accounts Committee: Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General 2014
Vote 21: Prisons
Vote 24: Department of Justice and Equality
Chapter 9: Development of Prison Accommodation in Dublin
(5 Nov 2015)

John Deasy: It is a political pick.

Public Accounts Committee: Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General 2014
Vote 21: Prisons
Vote 24: Department of Justice and Equality
Chapter 9: Development of Prison Accommodation in Dublin
(5 Nov 2015)

John Deasy: I do not believe the position of the Clerk of the Dáil and that of the Secretary General of the Department of Justice and Equality are comparable. I believe there is a lapse or a gap. It does not send a good signal across all of the areas of criminal justice in this country when we have the top administrative job when it comes to the justice area in a void or not filled. I believe it...

Public Accounts Committee: Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General 2014
Vote 21: Prisons
Vote 24: Department of Justice and Equality
Chapter 9: Development of Prison Accommodation in Dublin
(5 Nov 2015)

John Deasy: There is a problem if Mr. Waters has no interest in tending for this position career-wise. This is not with regard to Mr. Waters personally, but organisationally and institutionally there is a failing. It is not on the part of the Department, but it is the most important position in the Department. Notwithstanding what Mr. Waters has just said - I agree with that - the non-filling of this...

Public Accounts Committee: Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General 2014
Vote 21: Prisons
Vote 24: Department of Justice and Equality
Chapter 9: Development of Prison Accommodation in Dublin
(5 Nov 2015)

John Deasy: That was the shortest opening statement ever, which is a good sign. I was not going to start with the issue of prisons as they are not as such the subject of this Vote. We are dealing with the appropriation accounts, which cover quite a good deal as well as the issue of prisons. In the appropriation accounts, I want to start by asking about the asylum process, which is one of Mr. Waters'...

Public Accounts Committee: Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General 2014
Vote 21: Prisons
Vote 24: Department of Justice and Equality
Chapter 9: Development of Prison Accommodation in Dublin
(5 Nov 2015)

John Deasy: I want to go through some of the figures and some of the policy announcements that have been made recently, particularly as they pertain to fast-tracking the processing of applicants. I will start with that aspect. On doing some research into this, I saw press reports of a fast-tracking process being formulated within the Department having been announced in the media in April of this year....

Public Accounts Committee: Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General 2014
Vote 21: Prisons
Vote 24: Department of Justice and Equality
Chapter 9: Development of Prison Accommodation in Dublin
(5 Nov 2015)

John Deasy: There are four parts to the process potentially and then one can pursue a High Court appeal.

Public Accounts Committee: Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General 2014
Vote 21: Prisons
Vote 24: Department of Justice and Equality
Chapter 9: Development of Prison Accommodation in Dublin
(5 Nov 2015)

John Deasy: What are we looking at as far as people remaining in the system for years and years? I am from Waterford and the direct provision centres are in Tramore. I deal with many people who are in the system, having applied for refugee status. What will we be looking at in terms of timelines when somebody makes an application? Obviously there is an appeals process in place but what members of the...

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