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Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: The other question is this: why did the Department not collect the moneys outstanding from people who did not pay?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: We know it was an illegal contribution-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: -----but they did not pay it anyway. Why did the Department not follow the money it was owed?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: I want to know the figure and I want to know why it was not collected.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: Is it the strategy that if someone does not pay, that is it?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: That is the question.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: Can we have that information, Chair?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: I ask the Secretary General whether we can have an explanation as to why, historically, the money not paid by those in nursing homes was not collected by the Department. Can we have an answer to that question, even if it has to be in writing?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: We know there was money not collected from the Ombudsman's report.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: It is my recollection that when the representatives were here and this issue came up, there was no indication that there was a sensitivity surrounding the exit of the employee. Perhaps I am wrong. I will go back to look over the video of the committee meeting, but I am not aware there was any sensitivity. It was agreed to provide the-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: At that time, I thought they just agreed to submit the information to the committee, but there was no intimation that-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: About this departure.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: I want to make a suggestion. The HSE responded. Is that the entire correspondence that we have received or have we received more since they were here? Is that the extent of it in respect of No. R1717?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: If the Chair recalls, I asked Mr. Mulvany for the briefing in regard to how many cases the HSE had in the Workplace Relations Commission.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: That is fine.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: I agree with that. As much as we want answers, we will probably be told that-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: They will probably say they are in the middle of that. Did they not say they had not instructions as yet from the Minister?

Nursing Home Charges and Disability Allowance Payments: Statements (9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: I welcome the opportunity to speak on this matter, which is highly concerning. First, I want to commend those who have helped to bring it to light, which has allowed us to discuss it in this fashion today. What is involved here is the State bullying into submission those who could not afford the risk of high legal fees to seek justice and compensation, those who were wrongly charged but...

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