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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Early Intervention and Talk Therapy: Discussion (27 Jun 2018)

Joan Freeman: I thank Ms Murphy. Does Deputy Rabbitte have another question?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Early Intervention and Talk Therapy: Discussion (27 Jun 2018)

Joan Freeman: That brings the discussion to an end. I thank all the witnesses for attending today's meeting. The very useful information they have provided will be of great assistance to the committee in its future work.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Business of Joint Committee (4 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: As we have a quorum, we will begin our meeting in public session. Members are requested to ensure that their mobile phones are turned off for the duration of the meeting as they interfere with the sound system. Apologies have been received from Deputy Seán Crowe and Senators Colette Kelleher and Gabrielle McFadden. I propose that we now go into private session to deal with...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Mental Health Services' Funding and Performance Indicators: Discussion (4 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: From Mental Health Reform, I welcome Ms Shari McDaid, director, and Ms Kate Mitchell, senior policy and research officer. On behalf of the committee, I thank them for their attendance. The witnesses will be invited to make a brief opening statement, followed by a questions and answers session. I hope they will forgive the low attendance. Many members are currently voting in the Houses as...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Mental Health Services' Funding and Performance Indicators: Discussion (4 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: I thank Dr. McDaid, who does sterling work and who has the resilience of thousands of people. I also compliment Ms Kate Mitchell. I do not know how they both have a full head of hair. I have a million questions but I will respect the members and call on them to ask their questions first. Members will be given seven minutes for questions to be asked and answered.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Mental Health Services' Funding and Performance Indicators: Discussion (4 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: Very quickly, please.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Mental Health Services' Funding and Performance Indicators: Discussion (4 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: It is a very important question. If we cannot get a top three of recommendations from Mental Health Reform, we are only blowing in the wind. I agree with Deputy Neville.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Mental Health Services' Funding and Performance Indicators: Discussion (4 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: Dr. McDaid may answer it now, if she wishes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Mental Health Services' Funding and Performance Indicators: Discussion (4 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: It is a perfect example of kicking the can down the road. There is a business plan-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Mental Health Services' Funding and Performance Indicators: Discussion (4 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: I think costings were done. Was it something like €30 million?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Mental Health Services' Funding and Performance Indicators: Discussion (4 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: Senator Devine has gone to vote so I will continue. My bugbear is when people say they need an increase in budget but we do not know how they are going to spend what they are to be given. We have the highest budget per capitain Europe for mental health, at €900 million, but we do not know how the HSE is spending massive amounts of it. They use the excuse Stephen Mulvaney used when...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Mental Health Services' Funding and Performance Indicators: Discussion (4 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: Briefly, before Ms Mitchell answers the question on the €35 million, I asked about the €3.5 million for the 114 assistant psychologists. That seems a great deal of money.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Mental Health Services' Funding and Performance Indicators: Discussion (4 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: Really?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Mental Health Services' Funding and Performance Indicators: Discussion (4 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: It is for one year.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Mental Health Services' Funding and Performance Indicators: Discussion (4 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: Some €3.5 million for salaries of €30,000. Is my mathematics gone completely out the window because that does not add up?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Mental Health Services' Funding and Performance Indicators: Discussion (4 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: It is €30,000 by 114.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Mental Health Services' Funding and Performance Indicators: Discussion (4 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: I should not think so.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Mental Health Services' Funding and Performance Indicators: Discussion (4 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: I am sorry, I am not questioning Ms Mitchell.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Mental Health Services' Funding and Performance Indicators: Discussion (4 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: I merely wanted to know. Does it work out? It is €3.4 million. Ms Mitchell is absolutely right. From the beginning, I knew she was right.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Mental Health Services' Funding and Performance Indicators: Discussion (4 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: Ms Mitchell is correct. It opens my eyes for the first time to think we are talking only about 114 staff members here at a basic salary and it costs €3.5 million.

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