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Select Committee on Health: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (Resumed) (21 Feb 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: I suggest there is not much that has not been discussed. We are going through this Bill in a lot of detail, so-----

Select Committee on Health: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (Resumed) (21 Feb 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: Yes.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (Resumed) (21 Feb 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: The committee will certainly not hear me object to anything members may wish to discuss on Report Stage. The more discussion we have on all this, the better.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (Resumed) (21 Feb 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: There will also be the safeguard that we will have at least one more session to discuss this matter. Hopefully, it will be just one more. My understanding is that once something is raised, the members are covered.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (Resumed) (21 Feb 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: I moved amendment No. 141 and spoke to amendment Nos. 141 and 143.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (Resumed) (21 Feb 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: Just now. I will do so again if the committee wishes.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (Resumed) (21 Feb 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: No problem at all.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (Resumed) (21 Feb 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: Amendments No. 141 and 143, in combination, remove the requirement for surrogate mothers, donors or intending parents to be notified of an application seeking identifying information about them which has been submitted by a relevant person, a child born as a result of domestic surrogacy. This requirement is being removed because there is no provision for the surrogate mother, the donor or...

Select Committee on Health: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (Resumed) (21 Feb 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: The point is that we do not want to have a situation where the child, in exercising their right to identity, could somehow be prohibited or that the application could be interfered with through an application for an injunction or whatever it might be. It is exactly that. We are protecting the right of the child to seek his or her identity.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (Resumed) (21 Feb 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: I move amendment No. 142: In page 62, lines 15 and 16, to delete “section 69 application” and substitute “ “section 69 application” ”.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (Resumed) (21 Feb 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: I move amendment No. 143: In page 62, to delete lines 20 and 21.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (Resumed) (21 Feb 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: I move amendment No. 144: In page 64, between lines 23 and 24, to insert the following: “Provisions supplementary to sections 72 and 73 74. Sections 72 and 73 shall, with all necessary modifications, apply to— (a) a specified form, not being an application under this Part, given to the AHRRA under this Part as they apply to an application made under this Part, and (b)...

Select Committee on Health: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (Resumed) (21 Feb 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: It is up to the committee. The next one is moving onto essentially a new Bill on international surrogacy. It will take some time.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (Resumed) (21 Feb 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: No, that is it.

Seanad: Health (Termination of Pregnancy Services) (Safe Access Zones) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (27 Feb 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: I thank all colleagues for their contributions. It is a timely debate in the Seanad today. I want to acknowledge the support broadly across the Seanad. Obviously, there are those who disagree with the legislation, and I fully respect that, but there is broad support for it in the Seanad and the Dáil. The Bill has passed all Stages in the Dáil, and we are now here on Committee...

Seanad: Health (Termination of Pregnancy Services) (Safe Access Zones) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (27 Feb 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: I do, please, Acting Chairperson. It did not take very long for the veil to drop and to dispense with any concept of mutual respect, did it? I find it extraordinary that Senator Mullen stood up and suggested that we need to be able to debate in here without insulting people. He has insulted every woman in Ireland.

Seanad: Health (Termination of Pregnancy Services) (Safe Access Zones) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (27 Feb 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: He has insulted every GP, he has insulted every nurse, he has insulted everyone who works in the healthcare services. I do not mind him insulting the Government; that is fine, it is part of what we do in here. To suggest, however, that we should debate without insulting people and then stand up-----

Seanad: Health (Termination of Pregnancy Services) (Safe Access Zones) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (27 Feb 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: -----and insult every woman in this country, as he has, it really does take some neck. I will address two of the points he raised.Can someone commit an offence inadvertently? No. It is very clear in the Bill that is the point of the Garda warning. Now, of course, we come to your claim that none of this is happening, women are not being intimidated. This country has a dark history when it...

Seanad: Health (Termination of Pregnancy Services) (Safe Access Zones) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (27 Feb 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: -----an Ireland where anyone would turn to women and say, "We do not believe you; you must be lying." It is a disgrace. Those kinds of accusations have no place in today's Ireland. We have a dark history in this country, and we need to be cognisant of that when we talk about safe access to healthcare for women because, by God, we did not have it for a very long time throughout our history....

Seanad: Health (Termination of Pregnancy Services) (Safe Access Zones) Bill 2023: Committee Stage (27 Feb 2024)

Stephen Donnelly: They are confused, are they?

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