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Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

Paddy Burke: When is it proposed to take Committee Stage?

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

Paddy Burke: I support the three paragraphs in Senator Coffey's amendment. I would like to ask the Minister a question. In some countries people live in barges on rivers or lakes, and quite a number of people in this country live in barges. In some cases they use them as second homes or whatever. What is the position on those? The Minister has qualified the position on some dwellings, including...

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

Paddy Burke: The Bill refers to homes and not buildings.

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

Paddy Burke: The Minister should spell out his intention more clearly. There are many cases in rural Ireland where a son or daughter applied for planning permission to build an extension so that two families can live under one roof but in two separate living quarters. The reason they do this is so the offspring can look after their parents. We have been advocating this for many years, so people can be...

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

Paddy Burke: Who is the final arbiter? Is it the county manager?

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

Paddy Burke: I have a question for the Minister. Lord Lucan owns a considerable amount of ground rent in towns such as Castlebar.

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

Paddy Burke: He has disappeared and we have not seen him for many years.

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

Paddy Burke: In the case of leasehold and leases, is it the likes of Lord Lucan who must pay this charge or to whom does it apply? Ground rent is being paid for some of these dwellings. In this case, the person living in the house should not have to pay the €200 - Lord Lucan should pay it. I do not know how one finds out where he is. Does this throw the entire legislation up in arms? I understand...

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

Paddy Burke: With planning permission.

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

Paddy Burke: On Second Stage, I raised Senator Walsh's point with the Minister. Some of the houses in question are derelict.

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

Paddy Burke: They might not be fully derelict, but it might not take much money to make them liveable accommodation. What is the position in this regard? The explanatory memorandum states: "A 'dwelling' is defined as a building used, or suitable for use as, a separate dwelling whether or not certain facilities are shared." This definition must be removed from the memorandum if what the Minister has...

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

Paddy Burke: In which case it is a contradiction. Where two families live together and irrespective of whether they share facilities, the Minister stated they would not be liable in some cases. According to the memorandum, however, they are all liable.

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

Paddy Burke: The Minister must clarify the issue.

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

Paddy Burke: The Minister should clarify the question of a house that has lain idle for years and that might require much money to be put back into use, as Senator Walsh also pointed out.

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

Paddy Burke: We are discussing the amendment.

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

Paddy Burke: The Senator can revert under the section-----

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

Paddy Burke: -----unless his comment has to do with the amendment.

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

Paddy Burke: The Bill must be reprinted before we can proceed with Report Stage and, therefore, there will be a break between Committee Stage and Report Stage. If Committee Stage is not finished at 5 p.m., it will resume after 7 p.m. We are discussing amendment No. 3a.

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

Paddy Burke: Will the Minister clarify whether he will be coming back before Report Stage to answer the questions asked?

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

Paddy Burke: My understanding is that we deal with Committee Stage in full and that, before Report Stage, the Minister will clarify most of the points raised by the Senators.

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