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Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Where did Caranua get the idea that it was running out of funds?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Funnily enough, we had financial forecasts from the Department of Education and Skills back in 2002 that were completely wrong in the opposite direction because they underestimated. It seems to me that the number of applicants consistently dropped. Is that not right? The lowest figure was in 2016.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I hope there will be more. However, a sum of €50 million remains. Have applications closed?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Are they ongoing?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

Catherine Connolly: When was the meeting at which the presentation was made?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Are there minutes of that meeting?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

Catherine Connolly: It went to the board. There is €50 million in a fund at a time when there is a declining number of applications. Where did Caranua get the notion that there would not be enough money? Was it from an accountant?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I know that it is late, but I am unhappy. Have 2,000 files been put away complete?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

Catherine Connolly: They cannot come back again because Caranua is writing to tell them that their file is complete. It is simple English. Caranua is writing to them to state, "Your file is complete". Mr. O'Callaghan has confirmed that 2,000 have been put aside and are complete. At what stage will the organisation make it known to the applicants that they can come back if their needs have not been met?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I refer to the people with whom there is no mutual agreement. They have come to us and, possibly, every Oireachtas Member to say they have gone forward and: "They said they met my needs. I was informed that there was a limit on the services that could be received ... told that there was no hope in hell Caranua would pay for it ... told "wasn't entitled". They said they have dealt enough...

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I am asking Mr. O'Callaghan to answer that question.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Is the forecast-----

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

Catherine Connolly: That would be helpful.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Caranua was not running out of money.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Caranua was not running out of money when it made this decision.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I do not object to Caranua making decisions; I seek clarification-----

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Let me finish, please. I am trying to find out how Caranua arrived at the decision and why it was worried that it would run out of funds. That is what I am trying to establish. On the basis of what I have in front of me, I cannot make head nor tail of how one would think the organisation was running out of funds.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

Catherine Connolly: The Chairman has been generous with time. I am finished. I would like the other matters I raised to be addressed by the agency staff. They should have had that information today. Will Mr. Ó Foghlú confirm there will be a review of Caranua and the board and what is involved? Mr. O'Callaghan should review procedures as a matter of urgency and, at the very least, write to every...

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I specifically mentioned cases where people had written letters to the Department of Education and Skills, such as one on 16 October drawing its attention to the difficulties, but without reply. These difficulties have been brought to Caranua's attention. The various appeals that have been made have also brought matters to the witnesses' attention and I understand the appeals officer is in...

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

Catherine Connolly: You will, then, be fully aware of these things.

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