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Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (14 May 2015)

Eoghan Murphy: Yes, and yet you cite Anglo twice in your minutes over that period of time specifically and ... this is in relation to the restructuring of the bank and the establishment of a dedicated property unit ... that you do cite Anglo.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (14 May 2015)

Eoghan Murphy: Thank you. Thank you, Chair.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (14 May 2015)

Eoghan Murphy: Thank you, Chairman, and thank you to you both. Just two broad areas I want to just briefly touch upon, if I may, and the evidence document is BOI - B2, page 56, for the first area, and it's regarding exceptions to credit policy on lending. This is a document that we got back from the Bank of Ireland actually, looking at the period 2004 to 2008. The average exception rate for buy-to-let...

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (14 May 2015)

Eoghan Murphy: So just to clarify then, a high level of exceptions like we see there means that there is greater scrutiny of what's going on with each of those lending decisions?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (14 May 2015)

Eoghan Murphy: Yes. So there isn't a correlation the between, say 73% of those connections in terms of what was transferred to NAMA and the write-down in NAMA loans?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (14 May 2015)

Eoghan Murphy: Okay, thank you. The other area I want to touch upon is just briefly, going back to the night of the guarantee because it's just something I don't understand myself, if I may? On the night itself, yourself and AIB were together in the room at all times. The two banks and no one else, except for when you were with Government officials, is that correct?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (14 May 2015)

Eoghan Murphy: So, when Mr. Goggin would have been making phone calls to Mr. Boucher, back in Bank of Ireland, he was doing that in front of you and in front of AIB.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (14 May 2015)

Eoghan Murphy: And this is in the context of them trying to see if they could secure this €5 billion-----

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (14 May 2015)

Eoghan Murphy: -----each in funding. And did you make any phone calls yourself?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (14 May 2015)

Eoghan Murphy: Okay. And did you have any contacts with anyone else in Government Buildings that evening?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (14 May 2015)

Eoghan Murphy: Okay. And just finally then, to clarify. You go back in to meet with the Government, I take it with the Taoiseach and the Minister for Finance, is that correct?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (14 May 2015)

Eoghan Murphy: And others. And you were saying to them that you can provide the €10 billion that was needed for Anglo Irish Bank?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (14 May 2015)

Eoghan Murphy: And they say to you that they are going to provide a guarantee?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (14 May 2015)

Eoghan Murphy: In that same instance.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (14 May 2015)

Eoghan Murphy: And at that point then, is the €10 billion no longer needed for Anglo Irish Bank?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (14 May 2015)

Eoghan Murphy: So, just to clarify. You left Government Buildings, your understanding was that €10 billion was still required and that a guarantee of the six banks was coming into effect the next morning.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (14 May 2015)

Eoghan Murphy: Thank you. Thank you, Chair.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (14 May 2015)

Eoghan Murphy: Thank you, Chairman. And you're both very welcome, gentlemen. I just want to return to a question that Senator D'Arcy asked you earlier on, Mr. Dobey. He asked if you were satisfied that you had access to accurate information which enabled you to discern the full financial position of the group at all times in relation to AIB and I think you said that you were satisfied.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (14 May 2015)

Eoghan Murphy: Okay.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (14 May 2015)

Eoghan Murphy: And you came into auditing AIB in around ... is it 2002?

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