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Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(2 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: I really do hope that is the case.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(2 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: How often are statements of service provided? Most of those children will probably wait for four years until they are six or seven for the assessment of need. What happens when they get to 13 or 14 and it needs to be done again?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(2 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: I understand that, but the question for Ms O'Neill is whether there are many who require a second assessment?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(2 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: Or there is an assessment of need again. How many are in that situation?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(2 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: Ms O'Neill does not have the figures but they are substantial, are they not?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(2 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: Time is of the essence. What I am really pointing out-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(2 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: What I am really pointing out is that a child is often five or six when he or she gets a first assessment of need. Parents do not understand that they will need another assessment and how it operates within a timeline or that one starts again. They are not receiving the service that is required. They are receiving it for a five-year old when they are 13. They are now back to waiting for...

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(2 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: Is that not a fact?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(2 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: There is a legislative requirement to do the assessment of need and it just does not get done.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(2 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: How many parents have taken the HSE to court? How many have taken legal action to get the assessment of need carried out?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(2 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: I know they do not need to but, unfortunately, they do.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(2 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: How many?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(2 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: How much has it cost?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(2 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: The strategy seems to be one of settlement.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(2 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: Is it not damning that any parent-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(2 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: Yes, but it is damning that we have to resort to that. I just have one other question.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(2 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: I have one question. This is very important.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(2 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: There is a significant issue arising with colonoscopy waiting lists. Do we have a figure on how long we are waiting for results? The private sector seems to have come under serious pressure due to this as well. I am informed the waiting list in the private sector is 32 weeks. The waiting list for a colonoscopy in the public sector is 52 weeks, with the results taking weeks and months...

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(2 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: I will come back in if there is another round.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(2 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: We all have similar cases, unfortunately in growing numbers. What is the cost per bed for a HSE-provided bed in a special facility over that of a private bed? I am looking for a per annum figure.

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