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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Mar 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: That is something we need to look at. Like everything else it is very obvious afterwards. Obviously, it is something we are not doing at this point in time. I ask about Project SEARCH.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Mar 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: I can see the Chair is in a panic. Difficulties with the grant were mentioned, which is my last question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Mar 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: I always have additional questions; that is the problem. Ms Clinton spoke about particular difficulties with the workforce equipment adaption grant. I am sure many of us have come across that. Can she provide details of those difficulties?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Mar 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Did that report make specific reference to this grant?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Mar 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: That would be useful.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Mar 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Even if it was just given the okay and was ready to draw down when they were in employment. Should they get it beforehand to get some use of it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Mar 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: And nobody likes filling out forms.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Mar 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: I imagine a bigger entity or company can probably deal with an awful lot of the hassle and cost but this is putting a hell of a lot of pressure on a small player. Some employers say they are afraid of their life of doing the wrong thing so it is about making it as easy as possible for them and obviously for the person you are looking to get into this workplace.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Mar 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: I will be honest; I thought when I was shown the example previously that it would probably have suited me in a number of work scenarios that might not have worked out too perfectly. We will not go into that today.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Mar 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: The witnesses both spoke about the transitional structures. They have won us over with regard to having some sort of legislative framework or a plan where all the stakeholders are involved. That makes complete sense. I was interested as well in the timeline Ms Tonge spoke about. The first time I came into this committee the Irish Primary Principals Network, IPPN, said it would much prefer...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Mar 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: That probably works for an awful lot of students who go through that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Mar 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: My stepson would have gone through that way. We will see how it works out for my own son.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Mar 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: What I am talking about is not so much that. I am talking about where there is space and it is possible to tell an institute that there is a good likelihood this person is going to end up in its educational care and to therefore have all those pieces that are necessary in place. Who has already made every decision in respect of where they will go and what they will do, and where they will go...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Mar 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Ms Clinton mentioned a proposal for a pilot programme there.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Mar 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: I think it is called the wage subsidy scheme.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Mar 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: There completely is. In the latter ones, there are proposals that would relate more to courses, and whatever, but that is it. That is very much where it needs to go.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Mar 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: The other issue is the assistive technologies possibly being part of that wider conversation as to what we can do in the short term, the medium term and the long term, as a facilitator to the therapies, and whatever, with which we have a very significant issue. That is good.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Mar 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: For a fellow committee member who was speechless, I believe the Cathaoirleach’s comments caught everything. We are only synopsising what has been put in front of us and I agree with him that it is all very positive. We are talking about some of this, whether it is legislative frameworks, assistive technologies or whether there is a better transitional system where it can all be put...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Mar 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: I will be a complete nuisance and come in at a time when the Chair thought I would not. Ms Tonge spoke about the need for the transitional system in order that the student can have a better understanding before coming in. UCD is obviously a university with significant resources. Based on Ms Tonge's knowledge of it, what are the added supports? I accept that UCD is probably in a better...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Autism: Autism Policy: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Mar 2023)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: It is all about flexibility, particularly with funding.

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