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Public Accounts Committee: National Asset Management Agency: Financial Statements 2014 (9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: Would Mr. McDonagh not agree that the potential purchaser would be aware of that as well?

Public Accounts Committee: National Asset Management Agency: Financial Statements 2014 (9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: Is Mr. Daly not surprised at the nature of the sale? What was the advantage to them in telling NAMA that?

Public Accounts Committee: National Asset Management Agency: Financial Statements 2014 (9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: In the case of these venture capitalist companies, is there not a great deal of what I will not call insider dealing but I will call co-operation? They know exactly what is going on.

Public Accounts Committee: National Asset Management Agency: Financial Statements 2014 (9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: Let us consider the portfolio of properties, the types of loan and the likes of securities. Let us consider the Northern Ireland market vis-à-visthe market in Ireland, the level of foreign direct investment and the potential for retail. Much of it is retail-based here and in Northern Ireland. There are hotels as well. In 2014 there was an uptake in that market and in leisure...

Public Accounts Committee: National Asset Management Agency: Financial Statements 2014 (9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: Is there a profile of the properties involved? Mr. Daly has referred to due diligence. It seems to be a caveat term that covers everything when it is in storage. Is there a view of the type of property at issue? Are they hotels or properties? Where are these properties? It is something of a myth if we are talking about a portfolio of properties. Are they in Belfast or Enniskillen?...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: What was the original tenancy?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: One would imagine that in terms of its utilisation the IDA could make some use of it.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: It would be a good idea to write to the new CEO of the IDA, Mr. Martin Shanahan, seeking a plan of action in this regard.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: Is Mr. Boland coming in?

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 89
Internal Control in County Cork Vocational Education Committee
(9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: I welcome the Secretary General, Mr. Owens and their officials to this meeting. The Comptroller and Auditor General's report lists nine main issues: ineligible students paid to participate in Youthreach; leases entered into without the requisite ministerial sanction; significant sums spent on legal fees; numerous complaints from teachers and others to the Committee of Public Accounts; the...

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 89
Internal Control in County Cork Vocational Education Committee
(9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: What is the student base in the ETB's network?

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 89
Internal Control in County Cork Vocational Education Committee
(9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: I have a question for the Secretary General, who had overall responsibility for the VEC sector. Did the findings of the Comptroller and Auditor General come as a surprise to the Department, particularly the level of correspondence to this committee complaining about the VEC? This issue had been flagged as far back as 2000.

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 89
Internal Control in County Cork Vocational Education Committee
(9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: Did the Department discuss these concerns with the two previous chief executive officers of County Cork Vocational Education Committee, Mr. O'Brien and Ms Russell, who were constantly fire-fighting, especially on the industrial relations front, including in court? Did the Department at any stage tell these officials to get their house in order?

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 89
Internal Control in County Cork Vocational Education Committee
(9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: Mr. Owens inherited a number of legacy issues, including court cases. I note the VEC is tendering for legal services. When one considers the scale of the legal fees paid, what is the position in this regard? Has Mr. Owens had an opportunity to deal with these inherited issues and, if so, how did he approach the issues of litigation, tax settlements and so forth? I will not go through the...

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 89
Internal Control in County Cork Vocational Education Committee
(9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: From reading the file, the level of litigation indicates the VEC was not a happy camp in which to work. The contentious human resource issues these cases raised and to which Mr. Owens referred suggest that not only was there a lack of controls in place in the VEC but there was little harmony in the system.

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 89
Internal Control in County Cork Vocational Education Committee
(9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: Will the Secretary General respond from the point of view of what the Department has learned in respect of the reconfiguration of the vocational education committees? Does Mr. Ó Foghlú believe the level of observation, due diligence and controls, apart from the role of the Comptroller and Auditor General, will prevent circumstances similar to those that occurred in County Cork...

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 89
Internal Control in County Cork Vocational Education Committee
(9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: On the terms of contract for the employment of teachers and ancillary staff, is there a formal contract of engagement in place for new teachers? Is a timeframe in place with regard to the employment of teachers in the vocational education committees? How are terms and conditions, contract hours and timetables dealt with now?

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 89
Internal Control in County Cork Vocational Education Committee
(9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: In general terms, how are contracts managed for teaching staff in respect of hours, timetables and salaries?

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 89
Internal Control in County Cork Vocational Education Committee
(9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: I accept that Mr. Owens has only recently assumed the role of chief executive officer and I wish him well in his new role. It is very important, however, that these matters be discussed in light of the report produced by the Comptroller and Auditor General. I note that correspondence members received today is very critical of the former chief executives of County Cork VEC. While they may...

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report No. 89
Internal Control in County Cork Vocational Education Committee
(9 Jul 2015)

John Perry: There was a case involving the early retirement of a teacher based on a general practitioner's letter. An investigator had been appointed to look into the case but once the teacher retired, the investigator was taken off the case.

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