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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Heads of Protection of Life during Pregnancy Bill 2013: Public Hearings (17 May 2013)

Mattie McGrath: Good man.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Heads of Protection of Life during Pregnancy Bill 2013: Public Hearings (17 May 2013)

Mattie McGrath: I have no intention of withdrawing it. I am concerned that-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Heads of Protection of Life during Pregnancy Bill 2013: Public Hearings (17 May 2013)

Mattie McGrath: The disappearance of the Minister this morning had as much relevance as what I said.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Heads of Protection of Life during Pregnancy Bill 2013: Public Hearings (17 May 2013)

Mattie McGrath: Given that the two doctors are leading advisers among the physicians in favour of the proposals made, is there a danger of group-think?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Heads of Protection of Life during Pregnancy Bill 2013: Public Hearings (17 May 2013)

Mattie McGrath: I welcome and thank the guests. It is a relaxed session and I find it beneficial. The submission from Dr. Gerard Burke says it is unwise to attempt to produce a prescriptive legislative framework to cover all eventualities. Are clinical guidelines preferable and does legislation run the risk of being overly prescriptive? The witnesses make no reference to head 4 in the submission. Is...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Heads of Protection of Life during Pregnancy Bill 2013: Public Hearings (17 May 2013)

Mattie McGrath: I am sticking to the heads of the Bill. I am making a comment outside of the Bill as a member of the committee.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Heads of Protection of Life during Pregnancy Bill 2013: Public Hearings (17 May 2013)

Mattie McGrath: The Chairman can be more fair to some than others. I am asking that the Chairman allow me to make a brief comment, within my time, as a member of the committee. Resources are a major issue and have come up all day. Where will we get the resources if and when we pass the legislation?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Heads of Protection of Life during Pregnancy Bill 2013: Public Hearings (Resumed) (20 May 2013)

Mattie McGrath: I too welcome our guests and thank them for their attendance. Part one of the test for abortion on suicide grounds, as per the X case, is that as a matter of probability there must be a real threat posed to the life of the mother by way of self-destruction. Can psychiatrists judge, as a matter of probability, whether someone will commit suicide? Can they point to any published research...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Heads of Protection of Life during Pregnancy Bill 2013: Public Hearings (Resumed) (20 May 2013)

Mattie McGrath: I welcome our guests and thank them for the frankness and honesty of their approach. I will ask them a question I asked earlier. The X case judgment stated that abortion could be the only way of treating suicidal ideation. Is there psychiatric evidence for what that judgment presupposed, namely, that abortion is a form of necessary mental health treatment? The heads of the Bill also...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Heads of Protection of Life during Pregnancy Bill 2013: Public Hearings (Resumed) (20 May 2013)

Mattie McGrath: On a point of order-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Heads of Protection of Life during Pregnancy Bill 2013: Public Hearings (Resumed) (20 May 2013)

Mattie McGrath: With respect to the guests and all of us, we are doing our best here. I believe that if we do not get a longer break than 15 minutes, we should arrange for some refreshments to be brought up - just something light. It is too far to go to the restaurant, which appears to be half-closed. I thank the staff who looked after us, but people are still trying to get some food.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Heads of Protection of Life during Pregnancy Bill 2013: Public Hearings (Resumed) (20 May 2013)

Mattie McGrath: In that case the Chairman should allow more time for breaks. It is not fair.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Heads of Protection of Life during Pregnancy Bill 2013: Public Hearings (Resumed) (20 May 2013)

Mattie McGrath: That is why I say it - because we are late coming back.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Heads of Protection of Life during Pregnancy Bill 2013: Public Hearings (Resumed) (20 May 2013)

Mattie McGrath: That shows the indecent haste of the whole thing. It is ridiculous.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Heads of Protection of Life during Pregnancy Bill 2013: Public Hearings (Resumed) (20 May 2013)

Mattie McGrath: What is the indecent rush? We are Members of the House and we are expected to eat. With respect to our guests, we should be here on time for them. I only had tea and a scone, and I was glad of it, but it is not fair.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Heads of Protection of Life during Pregnancy Bill 2013: Public Hearings (Resumed) (20 May 2013)

Mattie McGrath: I welcome the witnesses and thank them for attending at this time in the evening. My first question is directed to Mr. Saunders. Mr. Saunders mentioned in his opening statement that the procedures referred to in the heads of the Bill do not fall within the definition of the mental health services or come within the remit of the Mental Health Commission. All references in the heads of the...

Pre-European Council Meeting: Statements (21 May 2013)

Mattie McGrath: Tá brón orm go bhfuil an Taoiseach imithe. One could be forgiven for believing one is waking up from a very bad dream. We have heard it all before and we are walking around in a haze and a fog. I am sure the Taoiseach must pinch himself most mornings when he wakes up. He must ask if it is true that he is the Taoiseach of the country. He now has his opportunity as the boss in...

Pre-European Council Meeting: Statements (21 May 2013)

Mattie McGrath: I wish Galway no ill will and I hope they will come back from it. Tipperary beat Waterford two years ago and it was the worst thing that ever happened us. A victory like that is not good for anyone. They were out on the field but they had neither design, vision, energy nor enthusiasm. They thought they would change the game play in the second half. What hope have we in the next few...

Pre-European Council Meeting: Statements (21 May 2013)

Mattie McGrath: Yes, I agree. I have no expertise in Galway or Connacht football; I am just using it as a comparison. There is no sign of any stability in the banking system. We are drifting. Does the State have sufficient funds to cover the bank guarantee for deposits? I have been informed that there are not sufficient funds. I ask the Minister of State to tell the people the situation. We saw what...

Pre-European Council Meeting: Statements (21 May 2013)

Mattie McGrath: The Minister of State is being bugged.

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