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Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: Okay. And you ignored all the warnings you got from the HSE on this during the summer. It said it was highly irregular. Is that right?

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: So you ignored it.

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: Okay. I am coming to a close. I want to ask Mr. Nugent one question in response to what he has just said. There is no way you are an independent company. You get €16 million a year, or around that, for the past few years, which is by far the majority of your funding, from the State. That puts you under an obligation to the taxpayer. It puts you under an obligation not to ignore...

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: No, you do not have to answer it, but I am asking you to consider it because you have let down the State, the taxpayer and also Friends and Supporters of the Central Remedial Clinic. Maybe you can consider it.

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: I am finished. Thank you.

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: Can I have the figures again?

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: There is much to cover but I just want to raise one item which is puzzling me. It was touched on by Deputy McDonald and others when I was absent. It concerns governance. There is an elephant in the room that disturbs me and should be mentioned, or it certainly deserves explanation. So many of the directors and people in positions of power in the CRC have close associations with the former...

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: The witness can see the dangers of people who have such close affiliations, including the chief executive. These people are making decisions on futures, preferment, salaries and issues like that.

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: Yes, but a large number have political links to Mr. Ahern. That is absolutely without any doubt. Is that true?

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: So there are three.

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: If these people have loyalties to a political party they may possibly be in danger or be vulnerable to the accusation that they give each other preferment and preferential treatment. That is the purpose of the analysis. I want to be assured that this is not the case.

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: I did not ask that but I thank the witness for answering.

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: The question is how these people got on, or how so many associates got on the board. There are three at the moment, including Mr. Brady, Mr. Kiely and Mr. Nugent, who are all closely allied to Fianna Fáil.

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: Since when?

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: I did not know that. It is an appropriate decision and I congratulate Mr. Kiely. I wish more would follow his particular example in this case. Is Mr. Ahern associated with or does he visit the clinic?

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: He has not visited the clinic in the past six or eight months.

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: Is that because they are not invited?

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: I do not quite understand the association with the Mater Hospital.

Public Accounts Committee: Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration (11 Dec 2013)

Shane Ross: What is the total value of the scheme?

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