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Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 17 - European Globalisation Adjustment Fund
FÁS Financial Statements 2012
National Training Fund
(4 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 17 - European Globalisation Adjustment Fund
FÁS Financial Statements 2012
National Training Fund
(4 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Let us reduce that figure to about €2,300 per job.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 17 - European Globalisation Adjustment Fund
FÁS Financial Statements 2012
National Training Fund
(4 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I accept all of that. How many new courses has FÁS brought in and dropped in the past two years? Are its courses fit for purpose?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 17 - European Globalisation Adjustment Fund
FÁS Financial Statements 2012
National Training Fund
(4 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Out of how many?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 17 - European Globalisation Adjustment Fund
FÁS Financial Statements 2012
National Training Fund
(4 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: How many courses has FÁS dropped in the past two years?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 17 - European Globalisation Adjustment Fund
FÁS Financial Statements 2012
National Training Fund
(4 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: How many courses has FÁS deactivated and how many new courses has it brought in? What is the turnover of the courses?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 17 - European Globalisation Adjustment Fund
FÁS Financial Statements 2012
National Training Fund
(4 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Out of a complement of how many?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 17 - European Globalisation Adjustment Fund
FÁS Financial Statements 2012
National Training Fund
(4 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Roughly, one is talking about 13%, or just over one in ten courses. Does Dr. Fields think that is adequate?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 17 - European Globalisation Adjustment Fund
FÁS Financial Statements 2012
National Training Fund
(4 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: How many of the people who came through training or job-related courses in the past two years have ended up in employment?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 17 - European Globalisation Adjustment Fund
FÁS Financial Statements 2012
National Training Fund
(4 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Is Mr. O'Toole saying that just over 50% of people doing FÁS courses end up in jobs - 60% of trainees and 45% of all others?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 17 - European Globalisation Adjustment Fund
FÁS Financial Statements 2012
National Training Fund
(4 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Is there a tracking system in that having done a course, FÁS knows whether somebody is in employment? Mr. O'Toole spoke about a survey. When somebody does a course, has FÁS some way of knowing what he or she is doing over the following 12 months? Is there a database to see if courses are fulfilling the criteria for the market and to ensure people get jobs?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 17 - European Globalisation Adjustment Fund
FÁS Financial Statements 2012
National Training Fund
(4 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I refer to the European Globalisation Adjustment Fund. Obviously, coming from Limerick and given what happened with Dell, I have a particular interest in it. In regard to the funding which has been returned to the EU, in Dell's case, 40% was returned. Interestingly, in the case of Waterford Crystal, it was a low as 20% while in the case of SR Technics, it was 60%. In terms of NACE 41,...

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 17 - European Globalisation Adjustment Fund
FÁS Financial Statements 2012
National Training Fund
(4 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I do not particularly want to be average. I think we can design programmes to meet the needs of individuals. From the surveys conducted on the former Dell employees, a significant proportion of the 2,600 former employees had an education standard of junior certificate or less. One would like people to get to the point at which they could do third level degrees. However, such an aspiration...

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 17 - European Globalisation Adjustment Fund
FÁS Financial Statements 2012
National Training Fund
(4 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Why is it not possible to spend every euro under the measure?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 17 - European Globalisation Adjustment Fund
FÁS Financial Statements 2012
National Training Fund
(4 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: On the application form for the former Dell workers, the provision was for third level education.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 17 - European Globalisation Adjustment Fund
FÁS Financial Statements 2012
National Training Fund
(4 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: How much was allocated under the Dell programme to enterprise? Of the total grant of €22 million, how much was allocated to the area of enterprise? Will Mr. Ó Foghlú given an indication of the total funding allocated under the various headings in the application? How much of that was spent and how much was unspent? I certainly know that some of categories could have spent...

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 17 - European Globalisation Adjustment Fund
FÁS Financial Statements 2012
National Training Fund
(4 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: The allocation to FÁS was €5.35 million, the allocation for higher education was €2.53 million and the allocation to the category of self-employed or entrepreneurship was €3.28 million, making a total of €11.16 million. What happened to the balance?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 17 - European Globalisation Adjustment Fund
FÁS Financial Statements 2012
National Training Fund
(4 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I know that. The point I am trying to establish is how much was the refund in respect of those categories? The total refund was €13.619 million. What was the refund in respect of each of the individual categories?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 17 - European Globalisation Adjustment Fund
FÁS Financial Statements 2012
National Training Fund
(4 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: May I suggest that the review of the course is incomplete? I make a simple point. If 40% of the fund was refunded, that means that money were returned from other categories. Will Mr. Ó Foghlú come up with the figure and provide it to the committee?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 17 - European Globalisation Adjustment Fund
FÁS Financial Statements 2012
National Training Fund
(4 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: My point is that the preparation of the scheme is paramount. What was the allocation of €1.45 million to the Department of Social Protection used for?

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