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Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(18 Jun 2015)

John Perry: I must press the point that this case has been brought to the attention of several Secretaries General and they all have come back with a stock answer.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(18 Jun 2015)

John Perry: And as my colleague says, it has been put to several Ministers.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(18 Jun 2015)

John Perry: Yes, Chairman. It was very clear.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(18 Jun 2015)

John Perry: I think that it is the advice that has been given to the Minister in regard to this case. We saw the report of the Comptroller and Auditor General on the Department and an account of the Department's discussion on legal fees. The family did not take the litigation route because of the cost of legal fees. The Department took legal advice, but this lady could not afford to take the risk of...

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(18 Jun 2015)

John Perry: Will Mr. O'Driscoll give us an overview on the process and a potential solution if possible?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(18 Jun 2015)

John Perry: I have two items I wish to raise, one of which is the recent BSE scare in light of cattle for breeding being imported into the country.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(18 Jun 2015)

John Perry: One would be amazed that in this day of technology the epidemiological test would take that length of time. Why would it take that length of time for the results of an epidemiological test?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(18 Jun 2015)

John Perry: Will Mr. O'Driscoll explain how the dead animals are collected? Is there a veterinary officer in all of those areas?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(18 Jun 2015)

John Perry: I refer to the rendering process in the knackery yard, from the time of collection to inspection. I refer to the previous case and the absence of veterinary personnel in the factory. How many vets work in the Department?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(18 Jun 2015)

John Perry: How many knackeries are in the country?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(18 Jun 2015)

John Perry: Who is responsible for reporting the deaths of animals over 48 months?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(18 Jun 2015)

John Perry: Is compensation paid for under 48 months?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(18 Jun 2015)

John Perry: What compensation is paid for after 48 months?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(18 Jun 2015)

John Perry: Who gets the €58 payment - the renderer or the farmer?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(18 Jun 2015)

John Perry: How many claims have been made?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(18 Jun 2015)

John Perry: Who makes the claim? Is it the renderer or the farmer?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(18 Jun 2015)

John Perry: That is my query. The fee is not paid to the farmer, it is paid to the renderer and that allows the pick-up charge. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(18 Jun 2015)

John Perry: It seems to me to be a loose arrangement, to be honest, the fact that it is being paid to the renderer and not to the farmer, to pick up the dead animal.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(18 Jun 2015)

John Perry: How is the age of the animal verified?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
(18 Jun 2015)

John Perry: Are there plans to tighten up that arrangement?

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