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Public Accounts Committee: 2009 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 37 - SKILL Programme (Resumed)
2010 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 41 - Partnership Arrangements in the Health Service
Special Report No. 80 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Administration of National Health and Local Authority Levy Fund
(20 Jun 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Did they establish the contact with the HSE and the Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government?

Public Accounts Committee: 2009 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 37 - SKILL Programme (Resumed)
2010 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 41 - Partnership Arrangements in the Health Service
Special Report No. 80 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Administration of National Health and Local Authority Levy Fund
(20 Jun 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Was it totally independent of everyone?

Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Second Stage (Resumed) (1 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I wish to share time with Deputy John O'Mahony.

Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Second Stage (Resumed) (1 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I am glad to have the opportunity to speak on this very important Bill, which has been the subject of wide-ranging discussion and deeply, genuinely held views. I think everyone would agree that providing a safe medical environment for both mother and child is vital. We must ensure the integrity and transparency of the legislation and, as stated by the Minister, Deputy Reilly, in his...

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (2 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: This is just a small point in the interest of the layman looking on and there may be a legal explanation for it. Within the reasonable opinion, the case may be in good faith, with due regard to best medical practice. Will the Minister elaborate for the layman the reason the term "best medical practice" could not be incorporated into "reasonable opinion", perhaps linking his response to the...

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (2 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: What is the advice?

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (2 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: So the reasonable opinion will flow then from the clinical guidelines issued by the individual college.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (2 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: If one was to include the phrase "best medical practice", what would be the consequence? The layman looking in at this would see that as reassurance, but what would be the legal consequence of including it?

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (2 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: To finish on that point, I assume that this particular issue will be taken care of within the guidelines currently being prepared under the regulations. Is that a fair assumption?

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (2 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Perhaps the Minister will have a logical explanation.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (2 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I refer to the point mentioned by the Minister of State, Deputy Alex White, that it would be very difficult to define best medical practice in the legislation. This issue has been raised. If best medical practice were to be defined as that laid down by the relevant professional bodies, could this provide a wording? Could one come up with that type of wording when defining a "reasonable...

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (2 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I am not saying that.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (2 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Where is that?

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (2 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I see it.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (2 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I accept that.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (2 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Can the Minister repeat what he said at the beginning of that contribution? I could not hear him.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (2 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: The Minister may have answered my question. Would the level of hospital he envisages operating under section 3 of the legislation be a model 4 hospital?

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (2 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Not below model 4. Within section 8, which deals with emergencies, from a practical point of view-----

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (2 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: That is the point I am making. Outside of section 8, would the Minister envisage its being a model 4 hospital?

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (3 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I have a question on section 4, which deals with the preparation of certification and prescribed forms. Will the Minister elaborate on the certification process? My questions are also linked to section 19. Certification will apply to procedures that are granted, but will it also deal with procedures that are refused? When does the Minister expect regulations to issue? Where do clinical...

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