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Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (9 Mar 2023)

Micheál Martin: He does not believe in a system where we have landlords. He said that.

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (9 Mar 2023)

Micheál Martin: Sorry now, let us not get too smart. This is a serious issue. It is about time Deputy Boyd Barrett's policies came under the microscope. He keeps on attacking and attacking but when it comes to the structure of our rental sector, he believes it should be all State run. That is his position. He does not believe there should be any private rental market. Correct?

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (9 Mar 2023)

Micheál Martin: It is correct. That is what the Deputy believes. That is fair enough; he is entitled to that belief. He does not believe there should be a private rental market.

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (9 Mar 2023)

Micheál Martin: Let us not twist it now. That is the Deputy's position. My view is that we need to increase the number of houses available to let. That is what we need to do. We need to keep more of the smaller landlords in the market and we need to attract more landlords into the market. We need more people to provide-----

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (9 Mar 2023)

Micheál Martin: Investors, yes. An investor could be a person who is investing in a pension. It may not be a "big corporate" which is how the Deputy loves to label every landlord and that is part of the problem here. People are getting out because they see the kinds of attitudes that have been developed. Anyone interested in tackling homelessness in the fullness of time must provide social housing, which...

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (9 Mar 2023)

Micheál Martin: We delivered 10,000 in 2022-----

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (9 Mar 2023)

Micheál Martin: Yes, between leasing, acquisitions and so on.

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (9 Mar 2023)

Micheál Martin: The target this year is 12,000. We need to do more and we will. We are doing affordable but Opposition Deputies keep opposing everything we do to try to provide more housing. Deputy Boyd Barrett, it is alleged, has opposed well over 1,500 houses in his own constituency. Indeed, it could be close to 2,000.

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (9 Mar 2023)

Micheál Martin: In one case he said that it would "dampen the Victorian ambience" of the area.

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (9 Mar 2023)

Micheál Martin: Then he comes in here and shouts about a housing crisis. The Jackies he mentioned would have a far better chance of getting more sustainable housing if we all treated the housing crisis as a crisis, including Deputy Boyd Barrett. He should do that rather than engaging in nimbyism in his constituency, opposing left, right and centre. The fundamental issue, I put to the Deputy, is supply...

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (9 Mar 2023)

Micheál Martin: No.

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (9 Mar 2023)

Micheál Martin: I do not know who the Deputy is talking about.

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (9 Mar 2023)

Micheál Martin: I do not know any of the details relating to any of the four Jackies that the Deputy mentioned.

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (9 Mar 2023)

Micheál Martin: He said at the outset that he would not identify individuals, which is right, fair and proper but he has a habit, and I have experienced it on the floor of the House, of giving a version of stories which does not always turn out to be the comprehensive story. I will leave it at that.

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (9 Mar 2023)

Micheál Martin: In terms of the county council, in the case that the Deputy mentioned, it should buy the house. It is simple.

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (9 Mar 2023)

Micheál Martin: Councils can buy for people who are over the threshold. They should buy the house under the tenant in situscheme. The directive is going out. The Deputy asked for an answer and I am giving him one. The Minister is issuing a directive and a circular today to local authorities to make sure-----

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (9 Mar 2023)

Micheál Martin: Six hundred were bought.

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (9 Mar 2023)

Micheál Martin: Deputy, you keep on shouting and roaring. I put it to you that you have not answered the question in terms of more than 1,500 people objecting to it.We cannot afford-----

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (9 Mar 2023)

Micheál Martin: Fine. It is the mindset, Deputy.

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (9 Mar 2023)

Micheál Martin: Deputy, it is the mindset that you adopt.

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