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Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jonathan O'Brien: -----more extensive with respect to including other legislation.

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jonathan O'Brien: If the Chairman cannot make a ruling on it, how-----

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jonathan O'Brien: To be sure, I am willing to withdraw the amendment on the understanding that on Report Stage I will be bringing forward an amendment along these lines but also extending it beyond technological universities.

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jonathan O'Brien: Is that fair enough?

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jonathan O'Brien: To be clear, is the Minister saying that if I wanted to change the text to include students, I would have to apply that change to all of the other items of legislation?

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jonathan O'Brien: I support what Deputy O'Sullivan said regarding the governing body. I, too, will be bringing forward an amendment on Report Stage.

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jonathan O'Brien: I move amendment No. 12:In page 22, between lines 23 and 24, to insert the following: “Membership of governing body of technological university 25. (1) A governing body, having not fewer than 11 and not more than 20 members, shall consist of—(a) the president, (b) a chairperson (in this section and Schedule 1 referred to as the "chairperson") who shall be an external member,...

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jonathan O'Brien: I formally withdraw the amendment.

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jonathan O'Brien: The legislation is very open in the context of what the Minister proposes. It does not state that governing body members must come from a particular sector. Therefore, we could have a situation where a majority of the external members could come from the business community or some other sector. What we are trying to do is to define membership. My amendment suggests it should include X...

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jonathan O'Brien: I wish to give notice that I will table an amendment on Report Stage to state that the conditions of service should be subject to normal industrial relations mechanisms with the recognised trade unions.

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jonathan O'Brien: I move amendment No. 13:In page 25, to delete lines 24 and 25 and substitute the following:“(iii) not less than 4 or 10 per cent (whichever is greater) of student representatives of the technological university, nominated by the Students’ Union, in accordance with its own procedures.”.

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jonathan O'Brien: I will also be tabling an amendment on Report Stage to tighten up that.

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jonathan O'Brien: I will press my amendment.

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jonathan O'Brien: I move amendment No. 14:In page 26, between lines 11 and 12, to insert the following:“(a) ensuring that the technological university has a quality assurance system that complies with European standards and guidelines,”. On Report Stage, I will table an additional amendment to section 29(3)(c) to include the community, social and cultural sectors in "promoting the involvement,...

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jonathan O'Brien: Yes. I will withdraw this amendment and table a more extensive one on Report Stage to cover cultural and social inclusion.

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jonathan O'Brien: I move amendment No. 15:In page 28, between lines 26 and 27, to insert the following:"Charters 32. (1) A technological university may have a charter, including a Student Charter agreed with the students’ union, not in conflict with this Act, setting out all or any of the following:(a) its objects and functions in respect of its academic and administrative affairs; (b) the...

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jonathan O'Brien: Yes.

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jonathan O'Brien: I am satisfied with that. Charters are necessary. For example, the promotion of the Irish language and Irish culture is not included anywhere in the legislation to the best of my knowledge but it should form part of a charter for a technological university.

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jonathan O'Brien: This is the section that deals with fees.

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jonathan O'Brien: This legislation reiterates the current position on fees in general.

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