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Bond Repayments: Motion (Resumed) [Private Members] (27 Nov 2013)

Shane Ross: I wish to point out something particularly significant in this motion, that is, that the entire Technical Group with its extraordinary differences of approach to the economy and to matters such as this has united behind this motion and it has attracted the support of other Independents as well. Their reasons may be very different but they believe that the taking on and the shouldering of...

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
(27 Nov 2013)

Shane Ross: I have some questions about the Central Remedial Clinic. Deputy Dowds dealt with it to some extent, but what is the exact situation there? What is the top-up and what is the amount funded by the HSE for the chief executives?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
(27 Nov 2013)

Shane Ross: Has the witness any idea of where the money for the non-HSE-funded part comes from?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
(27 Nov 2013)

Shane Ross: What resources does the CRC have?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
(27 Nov 2013)

Shane Ross: Does the witness not approve of that top-up? Does that not mean the CRC is not complying?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
(27 Nov 2013)

Shane Ross: Does it matter in the view of the HSE if the CRC is doing that? What Deputy Dowds said was very interesting and personal. He said that he had heard of the CRC cutting back on a number of things, with children unable to get treatment, disabled people unable to get swimming lessons and so forth. Has the HSE any role, given that it is funding the CRC, in ensuring that type of activity does...

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
(27 Nov 2013)

Shane Ross: There is a group called the Friends and Supporters of the Central Remedial Clinic. Is the witness aware of that group?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
(27 Nov 2013)

Shane Ross: Okay. Has the witness ever looked at its accounts?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
(27 Nov 2013)

Shane Ross: Those accounts are readily available. That company received €2 million in lottery funds in 2011, which is the latest accounts I have, and €1.9 million in 2010. On top of that, the accounts state that a surplus of €14 million is carried forward at the end of 2011. I presume those accounts are correct because they are audited by Ernst & Young. That does not mean...

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
(27 Nov 2013)

Shane Ross: Would it be acceptable to the witness?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
(27 Nov 2013)

Shane Ross: I can give these figures to the witness.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
(27 Nov 2013)

Shane Ross: I might be mistaken, but does the witness understand the point I am making?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
(27 Nov 2013)

Shane Ross: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
(27 Nov 2013)

Shane Ross: Yes. It is a mechanism for funding the CRC, and there is €14 million in it.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
(27 Nov 2013)

Shane Ross: Correct.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
(27 Nov 2013)

Shane Ross: Would it be the responsibility of the witness to ask those questions?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
(27 Nov 2013)

Shane Ross: The HSE funds it.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
(27 Nov 2013)

Shane Ross: No, but the HSE funds the CRC.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
(27 Nov 2013)

Shane Ross: Would it not be a reason to withdraw funding if, having plenty of money elsewhere, it refused to give children the swimming that they needed?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
(27 Nov 2013)

Shane Ross: I accept that Mr. O’Brien has that responsibility, but the entity calls itself Friends and Supporters of the Central Remedial Clinic. It would be odd if it had any other mission in life.

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