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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Michael Harty: We discussed this in private session earlier.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Michael Harty: We discussed that those comments, unfortunately, could identify officials within the Department and we said we would not discuss those comments at the meeting today.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Michael Harty: We were referring to the verbal comments that were made last evening.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Michael Harty: Were the labels taken off every slide and then reapplied after they had been reviewed?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Michael Harty: Labels would have been removed from many slides.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Michael Harty: In order of appearance this morning we will hear from Deputy Durkan, Senator Colm Burke, Deputy O'Connell and then Deputy Bríd Smith.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Michael Harty: Dr. Holohan wishes to respond.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Michael Harty: I have to go to the Chamber in a few minutes, but I would like to ask a question before I call Senator Burke. It arose out of evidence that we received last night, but it is something that has been on our minds as we have assessed this over the past 18 months. I refer to the balance of risk in relation to screening programmes. We understand that there is an inherent high rate of missing...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Michael Harty: Is Dr. Holohan saying that the balancing of risk is a dynamic assessment that is changing all the time, and that we should be looking at the programme and improving it as it progresses? For instance, we are going to move from cytology to HPV testing, which reduces the risk of missed cases. Is Dr. Holohan saying that there is a constant review of the balance of risk?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Michael Harty: Professor Kitchener, do you have any comments?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Michael Harty: Would any of the witnesses like to comment?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Michael Harty: I thank Dr. McKenna. I have to leave now and Deputy O'Reilly will take the Chair for the next half an hour anyway.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Michael Harty: I apologise for interrupting Deputy Bríd Smith, but I am conscious that Professor Kitchener and Dr. Walker need to leave now to catch a flight back to the UK. I thank them for attending the committee two weeks ago to brief us the report and for being here today to give evidence to the committee, which was very valuable.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Michael Harty: If there are no further questions we will conclude at this point.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Michael Harty: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Michael Harty: If the Deputy wishes to do so, she can provide the details of the case and we can forward them to the Department.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Michael Harty: We can follow up on a specific case, if the Deputy has details.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Independent Expert Panel Review into Cervical Screening: Discussion (18 Dec 2019)

Michael Harty: I thank Dr. McKenna. On behalf of the committee, I thank our guests, Dr. Glynn, Dr. Holohan, Ms Conroy and Ms O'Callaghan from the Department of Health and Mr. McCallion, Dr. Henry, Ms Fitzgerald, Dr. Doherty and, last but not least, Dr. McKenna from the HSE. I wish everyone a happy Christmas and a healthy new year.

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