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Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (17 Jul 2013)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: We should not have any anger.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (17 Jul 2013)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: I move amendment No. 2: In page 6, between lines 2 and 3, to insert the following:“ “fatal foetal abnormality” means a medical condition suffered by a foetus such that it is incompatible with life outside the womb;”.I spoke about the issue of fatal foetal abnormality last year, in respect of the D case in the European Court of Human Rights in 2006, which was...

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (17 Jul 2013)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: On a point of order, they presented to the Senator as happier, but not necessarily to the world.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (17 Jul 2013)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: It is not right to make those kinds of assessments or judgments.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (17 Jul 2013)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: Let her express a personal opinion, but not make it universal.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (17 Jul 2013)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: It is-----

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (17 Jul 2013)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: It is her opinion.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (17 Jul 2013)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: I thank the Minister for his answers. I know that it is a profound issue and is very difficult. When I interrupted Senator Healy Eames, I only did so on the grounds that if we talk about happiness for one group and unhappiness for another group, we just need to provide examples. I was not trying to browbeat at all. According to the European Court of Human Rights, the foetus was viable in...

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (17 Jul 2013)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: On a point of order, I have already gone through this. Was Senator Mullen listening?

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (17 Jul 2013)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: I have already gone through this, yet Senator Mullen is speaking about it as though I had not and putting my name to his thoughts.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (17 Jul 2013)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: We will have to wait for the Blacks.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (17 Jul 2013)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: It was in my speech earlier.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (17 Jul 2013)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: On a point of order, how can these assumptions be made? These women are not here for us to ascertain their emotional level, whether they are happy or sad. Senator Healy Eames cannot be putting this across as evidence of happiness and unhappiness, depending on which way one's choice was.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (17 Jul 2013)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: These women are not here in evidence and Senator Healy Eames cannot interpret this and call it fact. That is my point.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (17 Jul 2013)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: Okay.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (17 Jul 2013)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: I am not suggesting Senator Healy Eames is. I am suggesting-----

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (17 Jul 2013)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: The Senator does not understand the words "fatal" and "incompatible".

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (17 Jul 2013)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: Senator Ó Domhnaill has been equally good at responding.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (17 Jul 2013)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: I am if the Senator would stick to the motion or the amendment on fatal foetal abnormality which has nothing to do with disability.

Seanad: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (17 Jul 2013)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: I would like to press the amendment now.

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