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Estimates for Public Services 2023: Middle East (5 Dec 2023)

Leo Varadkar: Actually-----

Estimates for Public Services 2023: Middle East (5 Dec 2023)

Leo Varadkar: Sorry, I am just going to stop now because I am effectively being accused by Deputy Barry of somehow being responsible for what is happening in Gaza.

Estimates for Public Services 2023: Middle East (5 Dec 2023)

Leo Varadkar: I am going to sit down, Deputy. I think it is bang out of order. I am sorry.

Estimates for Public Services 2023: Middle East (5 Dec 2023)

Leo Varadkar: May I answer the other questions without being interrupted or shouted down?

Estimates for Public Services 2023: Middle East (5 Dec 2023)

Leo Varadkar: I think it is beyond the pale in this House for those kinds of accusations to be made.

Estimates for Public Services 2023: Middle East (5 Dec 2023)

Leo Varadkar: On the question from Deputy Haughey, as to whether there is a collective view from the Arab countries that I engage with, I do not think it would be correct to say there is a collective view. There are different emphases from Egypt to Jordan to Qatar, for example. I think there is a majority view that there should be a permanent ceasefire; that there should be no expulsions of Palestinians...

Estimates for Public Services 2023: Middle East (5 Dec 2023)

Leo Varadkar: They might not like the fact that the Palestinian Authority has decided not to-----

Estimates for Public Services 2023: Middle East (5 Dec 2023)

Leo Varadkar: It is the case that the Palestinian Authority has not decided to take, or at least my advice is that it has not taken, a case as an injured party.

Estimates for Public Services 2023: Middle East (5 Dec 2023)

Leo Varadkar: If I am incorrect on that, I am happy to clarify. Again, there are interruptions when uncomfortable facts are put across.

Estimates for Public Services 2023: Middle East (5 Dec 2023)

Leo Varadkar: Just on genocide, I think, or at least I hope, we all agree in this House that the Holocaust, the Shoah, was a genocide.

Estimates for Public Services 2023: Middle East (5 Dec 2023)

Leo Varadkar: Hitler killed 6 million people and he would have killed another 3 million to 6 million people if he could have. Deputy Boyd Barrett takes the view that the killing of 15,000 people in Gaza is a genocide, and it would appear that they intend to kill many more. I will ask this question, however, and I think it is a reasonable one to ask. Is what Hamas has done to Israel not also genocidal?

Estimates for Public Services 2023: Middle East (5 Dec 2023)

Leo Varadkar: Hamas went into Israel, killed 1,400 people, including women and children, and took people hostage. They would have killed many more if they had the chance. I have no doubt that Hamas would kill as many people in Israel as it possibly could if it was given the chance and had the weapons. Why is that not a genocide? Is 1,400 people not enough?

Confidence in the Minister for Justice: Motion (5 Dec 2023)

Leo Varadkar: I move: That Dáil Éireann has confidence in the Minister for Justice, Helen McEntee TD. We will debate a lot of things over the next two hours, but I want to reiterate that our thoughts are first and foremost with the schoolchildren and their carer who were so brutally and senselessly attacked last Thursday week. Two remain in hospital this evening and we hope they make a...

Confidence in the Minister for Justice: Motion (5 Dec 2023)

Leo Varadkar: I would like to make a point of order.

Confidence in the Minister for Justice: Motion (5 Dec 2023)

Leo Varadkar: It is a point of order. The leader of the Opposition has quite disgracefully misled the Dáil.

Confidence in the Minister for Justice: Motion (5 Dec 2023)

Leo Varadkar: There was contact from the Government with the school within 24 hours of the events.

Confidence in the Minister for Justice: Motion (5 Dec 2023)

Leo Varadkar: Several Ministers did so. She knows that. It is deliberate misleading and it should be withdrawn.

Confidence in the Minister for Justice: Motion (5 Dec 2023)

Leo Varadkar: I call on her to be decent for once and to withdraw it.

Confidence in the Minister for Justice: Motion (5 Dec 2023)

Leo Varadkar: Deputy McDonald knows it is not. It is absolutely disgraceful behaviour.

Confidence in the Minister for Justice: Motion (5 Dec 2023)

Leo Varadkar: It should be withdrawn.

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