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Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 18 - Shared Services
Special Report No. 87 - Effectiveness of Audit Committees in State Bodies
Issues with Public Procurement
(5 Mar 2015)

John Perry: What percentage of the figure of €54 billion will be disbursed to the 26 local authorities?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 18 - Shared Services
Special Report No. 87 - Effectiveness of Audit Committees in State Bodies
Issues with Public Procurement
(5 Mar 2015)

John Perry: Who is auditing it?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 18 - Shared Services
Special Report No. 87 - Effectiveness of Audit Committees in State Bodies
Issues with Public Procurement
(5 Mar 2015)

John Perry: To whom is it accountable?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 18 - Shared Services
Special Report No. 87 - Effectiveness of Audit Committees in State Bodies
Issues with Public Procurement
(5 Mar 2015)

John Perry: In light of the fact that there are many different situations of debt by local authorities at the moment, which has prevented them from taking advantage of the upturn, as many are heavily indebted at the moment. They are not in a position to engage in different developments. Is it not a huge difficulty when it comes to essential repair grants or housing development grants? Is it not a...

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 18 - Shared Services
Special Report No. 87 - Effectiveness of Audit Committees in State Bodies
Issues with Public Procurement
(5 Mar 2015)

John Perry: I compliment the work the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform is doing, but in regard to the ability of local authorities to borrow, who is the assigned, statutorily responsible body that takes responsibility for the loan if in default?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 18 - Shared Services
Special Report No. 87 - Effectiveness of Audit Committees in State Bodies
Issues with Public Procurement
(5 Mar 2015)

John Perry: Mr. Watt referred to the reduction of the 180 State bodies. He might explain the overall effectiveness of that programme.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 18 - Shared Services
Special Report No. 87 - Effectiveness of Audit Committees in State Bodies
Issues with Public Procurement
(5 Mar 2015)

John Perry: I have a question on the single licensing portal. That was for the issuing of statutory licences to the retail trade. Mr. Watt might give an update on it. That was the situation where 25 licences could be applied for on the single portal, which would cut down on administrative costs for anybody in the retail trade. This was a far-reaching policy. How far has it advanced?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 18 - Shared Services
Special Report No. 87 - Effectiveness of Audit Committees in State Bodies
Issues with Public Procurement
(5 Mar 2015)

John Perry: I was reading the note about directives 06/12 and 10/14. This might defuse some of the issues about school supply. A directive was given that where the accounting officer could be deemed the principal of a school, and they felt they were getting value for money and equality of standard, if they signed a statutory declaration, as the accounting officer for the school, they could deal with...

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 18 - Shared Services
Special Report No. 87 - Effectiveness of Audit Committees in State Bodies
Issues with Public Procurement
(5 Mar 2015)

John Perry: Once products are subject to centralised contracts, purchasers in schools are often afraid to purchase from any other supplier in fear of losing central funding. Is there a real risk if they sign up to 16/13? One is dealing with competent people who are in a job for 20 years and know exactly the quality of the product they are getting. If they give a statutory declaration that they are in...

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 18 - Shared Services
Special Report No. 87 - Effectiveness of Audit Committees in State Bodies
Issues with Public Procurement
(5 Mar 2015)

John Perry: In another role I have dealt with a supplying a school and I know it is very important. Mr. Quinn was very helpful about that issue with regard to clarification. While I respect small businesses, it is very hard to keep everybody happy when one is dealing with €9 billion of procurement contracts, no matter how one does it. There is an issue of supply and demand and the economy of...

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 18 - Shared Services
Special Report No. 87 - Effectiveness of Audit Committees in State Bodies
Issues with Public Procurement
(5 Mar 2015)

John Perry: I would like to get clarification that this clarification could be sent by circular from the Department of Education and Skills to schools, giving them a clear undertaking that they could adhere to 6.13 without any repercussions.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Vote 18 - Shared Services
Special Report No. 87 - Effectiveness of Audit Committees in State Bodies
Issues with Public Procurement
(5 Mar 2015)

John Perry: That would be very much appreciated. I thank Mr. Watts.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (12 Mar 2015)

John Perry: Having worked with the secretariat when I was Chairman, it would be very wrong to chastise the clerk to the committee and the acting clerk. What happened might have been a blessing in disguise, as we now have the Revenue Commissioners before us and will have ample opportunity to bring in representatives of HSBC once we hear what the chairman of the Revenue Commissioners has to say. In all...

Public Accounts Committee: Revenue Commissioners Investigation of HSBC Offshore Accounts (12 Mar 2015)

John Perry: I had my hand up to ask a question. I congratulate Mr. Niall Cody on his appointment and wish him well. In regard to the Chairman's point about inviting HSBC to appear before the committee, that is the right thing to do in regard to its obligation to the State and the fact that it is a big employer in this country and manages a huge portfolio of finances. Following Mr. Niall Cody's...

Public Accounts Committee: Revenue Commissioners Investigation of HSBC Offshore Accounts (12 Mar 2015)

John Perry: Revenue has a number of disks that have been encrypted. Given the technology in place, the fact that the disk is from 2010, the convergence of banking in 2018 and the offshore facilitation by HSBC bank, in Mr. Cody's opinion did any information from the IFSC or any other banking fraternity units within the State indicate - while people cannot move their money offshore - that there could be...

Public Accounts Committee: Revenue Commissioners Investigation of HSBC Offshore Accounts (12 Mar 2015)

John Perry: Given the double taxation arrangement that is in place with Switzerland, has additional information been furnished since that has been signed?

Public Accounts Committee: Revenue Commissioners Investigation of HSBC Offshore Accounts (12 Mar 2015)

John Perry: Is it retrospective?

Public Accounts Committee: Revenue Commissioners Investigation of HSBC Offshore Accounts (12 Mar 2015)

John Perry: It is just on the commencement notice. With regard to the other encrypted disks that might be available, have any of those come into Revenue's possession?

Public Accounts Committee: Revenue Commissioners Investigation of HSBC Offshore Accounts (12 Mar 2015)

John Perry: I thank Mr. Niall Cody and wish him well in his appointment.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Apr 2015)

John Perry: I would like to have clarification with regard to the IBRC liquidation in 2011 and its ceasing to trade entirely on 7 February 2013. Was it taken over by NAMA?

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