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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Authorised Push Payments Fraud: Banking and Payments Federation Ireland (24 May 2023)

Rose Conway-Walsh: Has BPFI done any investigations into the role of artificial intelligence, AI, in this regard?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Authorised Push Payments Fraud: Banking and Payments Federation Ireland (24 May 2023)

Rose Conway-Walsh: It could also escalate. In the absence of having a national strategy, a co-ordinated approach and all of those things, AI could work the other way. My concern is that, as other jurisdictions are ahead of the curve in combating all this, then the fraudsters will obviously move to more vulnerable jurisdictions. That leaves us more vulnerable all of the time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Authorised Push Payments Fraud: Banking and Payments Federation Ireland (24 May 2023)

Rose Conway-Walsh: Therefore it continues to get worse. I have been dealing with a case of an authorised push payment where a confirmation text from Apple Pay came in at the same time they were attempting to make an online purchase. It was essentially attaching their bank account to the fraudster's Apple Pay account. Assuming that the text was to confirm the purchase the person had approved, this allowed the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Authorised Push Payments Fraud: Banking and Payments Federation Ireland (24 May 2023)

Rose Conway-Walsh: What are the statutory rights of the customers in the case of app fraud?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Authorised Push Payments Fraud: Banking and Payments Federation Ireland (24 May 2023)

Rose Conway-Walsh: I refer to when people use the authorisation app.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Authorised Push Payments Fraud: Banking and Payments Federation Ireland (24 May 2023)

Rose Conway-Walsh: That is a bit of a problem because there is ambiguity as to where the fault lies. It is important that we recognise it is not always clear when an authorised or an unauthorised payment is made. I have dealt with another case where the individual was confident of having not approved the payments, but the bank told the individual it would have to investigate, to determine where the fault lay....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Authorised Push Payments Fraud: Banking and Payments Federation Ireland (24 May 2023)

Rose Conway-Walsh: What co-ordination does the BPFI have with the app stores in trying to prevent it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Authorised Push Payments Fraud: Banking and Payments Federation Ireland (24 May 2023)

Rose Conway-Walsh: Is it safe for people to use their banking apps?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Authorised Push Payments Fraud: Banking and Payments Federation Ireland (24 May 2023)

Rose Conway-Walsh: Should those apps be available through the Apple store if they can be used to do what we are taking about?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Authorised Push Payments Fraud: Banking and Payments Federation Ireland (24 May 2023)

Rose Conway-Walsh: Would the BPFI have contacted Apple to say it has concerns?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Authorised Push Payments Fraud: Banking and Payments Federation Ireland (24 May 2023)

Rose Conway-Walsh: It is important Apple is asked for a response, because people are left vulnerable.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Authorised Push Payments Fraud: Banking and Payments Federation Ireland (24 May 2023)

Rose Conway-Walsh: The BPFI would have a responsibility to get a response from Apple. When will data for 2022 be released?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Authorised Push Payments Fraud: Banking and Payments Federation Ireland (24 May 2023)

Rose Conway-Walsh: How is that work resourced and conducted?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Authorised Push Payments Fraud: Banking and Payments Federation Ireland (24 May 2023)

Rose Conway-Walsh: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Authorised Push Payments Fraud: Banking and Payments Federation Ireland (24 May 2023)

Rose Conway-Walsh: Fraud involving authorised payments is reported less than that involving unauthorised payments. In the first example I gave, an individual contacted a bank and by going through the individual's transactions, it was determined how the fraud was conducted. The individual did not report it to the Garda, because the individual knew he or she was not entitled to get his or her money back. Is...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Authorised Push Payments Fraud: Banking and Payments Federation Ireland (24 May 2023)

Rose Conway-Walsh: Would the Garda have the resources? Perhaps we can speak to the Garda when it comes before the committee. I am concerned, particularly in light of the recent reports from the Director of Public Prosecutions, DPP, that it is severely short of staff in there.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Business of Select Committee (24 May 2023)

Rose Conway-Walsh: I nominate Deputy Nash.

Written Answers — Department of Culture, Heritage and the Gaeltacht: Sports Events (18 May 2023)

Rose Conway-Walsh: 20. To ask the Minister for Culture, Heritage and the Gaeltacht the practical steps available to ensure that online GAA sporting content is not behind a paywall; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [23458/23]

Written Answers — Department of Housing, Planning, and Local Government: Water Services (18 May 2023)

Rose Conway-Walsh: 158. To ask the Minister for Housing, Planning, and Local Government if he will ensure that all communities without water are supported and fast-tracked in joining group water schemes as a matter of urgency; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [23460/23]

Written Answers — Department of Housing, Planning, and Local Government: Housing Policy (18 May 2023)

Rose Conway-Walsh: 171. To ask the Minister for Housing, Planning, and Local Government the steps he is taking to ensure that there is no capital underspend in housing in 2023; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [23459/23]

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