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Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Key Priorities and Legislation of the Department of Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media: Discussion (24 Nov 2021)

Catherine Martin: I wish things were that simple, but they cannot be distilled into that simplicity.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Key Priorities and Legislation of the Department of Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media: Discussion (24 Nov 2021)

Catherine Martin: I know that from working with the sector.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Key Priorities and Legislation of the Department of Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media: Discussion (24 Nov 2021)

Catherine Martin: If the Deputy wants to take the floor, that is fine.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Key Priorities and Legislation of the Department of Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media: Discussion (24 Nov 2021)

Catherine Martin: It is not a "Yes" or "No" answer. I know this a line the Deputy likes to pursue and is very fond of, but these questions do not have "Yes" or "No" answers. I am also Minister-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Key Priorities and Legislation of the Department of Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media: Discussion (24 Nov 2021)

Catherine Martin: These are not "Yes" or "No" answers. What the Deputy insists on ignoring is that I am also a Minister in the Government that awarded record, unprecedented funding to the Arts Council. I am also a Minister in a Government.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Key Priorities and Legislation of the Department of Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media: Discussion (24 Nov 2021)

Catherine Martin: On social welfare supports, the Department of Social Protection stands ready to provide support to those impacted in the short term. My Department engages on an ongoing basis with the stakeholders and we will continue to do so to receive feedback on the evolving challenges facing the sector. We have not been found wanting. We will assess the situation and keep it under review.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Key Priorities and Legislation of the Department of Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media: Discussion (24 Nov 2021)

Catherine Martin: The most recent analysis I have by the Department of Social Protection was that in September, 533,000 people with a known employer number had returned to work having availed of the PUP. It shows that 62% returned to the same employer, 12% moved to a different employer and 26% moved to a different employer and different activity. Four in ten tourism and hospitality workers on the PUP did...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Key Priorities and Legislation of the Department of Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media: Discussion (24 Nov 2021)

Catherine Martin: I really think that is absolutely unnecessary.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Key Priorities and Legislation of the Department of Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media: Discussion (24 Nov 2021)

Catherine Martin: A question from a script -----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Key Priorities and Legislation of the Department of Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media: Discussion (24 Nov 2021)

Catherine Martin: The music and entertainment business assistance scheme, MEBAS, was something we did. It has had a few iterations. We did it with close consultation from MEAI. The officials examined the specific scheme to which the Deputy referred and felt it was not feasible -----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Key Priorities and Legislation of the Department of Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media: Discussion (24 Nov 2021)

Catherine Martin: Having said that, we will continue to engage with the arts sector to see if supports are needed. The live performance support scheme of €25 million is available for 2022 -----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Key Priorities and Legislation of the Department of Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media: Discussion (24 Nov 2021)

Catherine Martin: The officials examined it and felt it was not feasible.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Key Priorities and Legislation of the Department of Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media: Discussion (24 Nov 2021)

Catherine Martin: I have not met with the Minister on this yet but I will meet him in advance of the tourism and hospitality forum to discuss it. As the Deputy can imagine, the current evolving situation with Covid has been taking all our attention where we are assessing and reviewing the supports that are needed. We are seeking to address skill shortages. Recruitment continues to be a significant challenge...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Key Priorities and Legislation of the Department of Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media: Discussion (24 Nov 2021)

Catherine Martin: This was addressed in the tourism and hospitality forum, which myself -----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Key Priorities and Legislation of the Department of Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media: Discussion (24 Nov 2021)

Catherine Martin: Myself and the Tánaiste attend that forum. The matter was raised in that forum.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Key Priorities and Legislation of the Department of Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media: Discussion (24 Nov 2021)

Catherine Martin: I did not have to go to him specifically. The stakeholders have a discussion with us as co-chairs of the forum. The idea is that they are talking to both of us at the same time and that the Tánaiste hears what I am hearing at the same time and we both respond.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Key Priorities and Legislation of the Department of Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media: Discussion (24 Nov 2021)

Catherine Martin: It was raised at the forum and we responded during the forum.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Key Priorities and Legislation of the Department of Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media: Discussion (24 Nov 2021)

Catherine Martin: Absolutely. I will make sure that will happen.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Key Priorities and Legislation of the Department of Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media: Discussion (24 Nov 2021)

Catherine Martin: On the other issue, I reassure the Deputy that the Secretary General of the Department is a member of the Covid-19 oversight group and the body that makes the recommendations is represented on that oversight group. The Secretary General gets to feed into that process. I would add that dancing is allowed in certain circumstances.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Key Priorities and Legislation of the Department of Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media: Discussion (24 Nov 2021)

Catherine Martin: I can send the Senator a letter on that.

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