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Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 7 - Audit of Revenue 2011
Chapter 8 - Revenue Outturn 2011
Chapter 9 - Revenue Debt Collection
Chapter 10 - Increasing Tax Compliance
(21 Feb 2013)

Mary Lou McDonald: And the money will be deducted from-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 7 - Audit of Revenue 2011
Chapter 8 - Revenue Outturn 2011
Chapter 9 - Revenue Debt Collection
Chapter 10 - Increasing Tax Compliance
(21 Feb 2013)

Mary Lou McDonald: Will that be from a deposit account or could that be deducted from a person's current account?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 7 - Audit of Revenue 2011
Chapter 8 - Revenue Outturn 2011
Chapter 9 - Revenue Debt Collection
Chapter 10 - Increasing Tax Compliance
(21 Feb 2013)

Mary Lou McDonald: From any account that an individual might hold. What about people's welfare payments? Let us not get distracted by the deferral issue. Let us assume I am a social welfare recipient and I choose not to seek a deferral - let us not get into the rationale - what happens to me then?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 7 - Audit of Revenue 2011
Chapter 8 - Revenue Outturn 2011
Chapter 9 - Revenue Debt Collection
Chapter 10 - Increasing Tax Compliance
(21 Feb 2013)

Mary Lou McDonald: Revenue has reminded me-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 7 - Audit of Revenue 2011
Chapter 8 - Revenue Outturn 2011
Chapter 9 - Revenue Debt Collection
Chapter 10 - Increasing Tax Compliance
(21 Feb 2013)

Mary Lou McDonald: And I seek not to take it.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 7 - Audit of Revenue 2011
Chapter 8 - Revenue Outturn 2011
Chapter 9 - Revenue Debt Collection
Chapter 10 - Increasing Tax Compliance
(21 Feb 2013)

Mary Lou McDonald: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 7 - Audit of Revenue 2011
Chapter 8 - Revenue Outturn 2011
Chapter 9 - Revenue Debt Collection
Chapter 10 - Increasing Tax Compliance
(21 Feb 2013)

Mary Lou McDonald: To deduct from a social welfare payment at source. Will Ms Feehily confirm for the committee that each of these actions - deduction at source from payroll, attachment orders to one's bank account or direct deduction from a social welfare payment at source - are entirely lawful?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 7 - Audit of Revenue 2011
Chapter 8 - Revenue Outturn 2011
Chapter 9 - Revenue Debt Collection
Chapter 10 - Increasing Tax Compliance
(21 Feb 2013)

Mary Lou McDonald: Presumably Revenue has had some level of contact with the banks and the Department of Social Protection in respect of these compliance mechanisms.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 7 - Audit of Revenue 2011
Chapter 8 - Revenue Outturn 2011
Chapter 9 - Revenue Debt Collection
Chapter 10 - Increasing Tax Compliance
(21 Feb 2013)

Mary Lou McDonald: I understand the conversations Revenue has had in respect of people volunteering to have a deduction made from their payment but my concern is around the compliance approach. I say directly the reason that, to my way of thinking, is the more important part of the puzzle is that the vast majority of people who rely on social welfare payments are not in a position to pay this tax. One does...

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 7 - Audit of Revenue 2011
Chapter 8 - Revenue Outturn 2011
Chapter 9 - Revenue Debt Collection
Chapter 10 - Increasing Tax Compliance
(21 Feb 2013)

Mary Lou McDonald: However, Ms Feehily is prepared and she has the instruments to make this mandatory. I understand the point Ms Feehily made about the definition of "financial hardship". I understand it is not her job but the job of the Government and the Oireachtas to make the law and to-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 7 - Audit of Revenue 2011
Chapter 8 - Revenue Outturn 2011
Chapter 9 - Revenue Debt Collection
Chapter 10 - Increasing Tax Compliance
(21 Feb 2013)

Mary Lou McDonald: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 7 - Audit of Revenue 2011
Chapter 8 - Revenue Outturn 2011
Chapter 9 - Revenue Debt Collection
Chapter 10 - Increasing Tax Compliance
(21 Feb 2013)

Mary Lou McDonald: Does Ms Feehily understand my frustration and the frustration of many people who might tune in to this committee session? There is a deferral but no exemption for people who clearly and fairly fall into "persons experiencing financial hardship", and Ms Feehily also used the term "fairness" in terms of the application of this tax. The big problem that all of us face, and that Revenue faces,...

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 7 - Audit of Revenue 2011
Chapter 8 - Revenue Outturn 2011
Chapter 9 - Revenue Debt Collection
Chapter 10 - Increasing Tax Compliance
(21 Feb 2013)

Mary Lou McDonald: Six months, is it not?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 7 - Audit of Revenue 2011
Chapter 8 - Revenue Outturn 2011
Chapter 9 - Revenue Debt Collection
Chapter 10 - Increasing Tax Compliance
(21 Feb 2013)

Mary Lou McDonald: Therefore, the Department will not write to people on the issue.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 7 - Audit of Revenue 2011
Chapter 8 - Revenue Outturn 2011
Chapter 9 - Revenue Debt Collection
Chapter 10 - Increasing Tax Compliance
(21 Feb 2013)

Mary Lou McDonald: Will Revenue write to people annually?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 7 - Audit of Revenue 2011
Chapter 8 - Revenue Outturn 2011
Chapter 9 - Revenue Debt Collection
Chapter 10 - Increasing Tax Compliance
(21 Feb 2013)

Mary Lou McDonald: Will Ms Feehily set out for us the charges and penalties that will be levied should somebody such as a person out of work on jobseeker's allowance who does not have a waiver avail of a deferral? What will the additional charge be for that individual?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 7 - Audit of Revenue 2011
Chapter 8 - Revenue Outturn 2011
Chapter 9 - Revenue Debt Collection
Chapter 10 - Increasing Tax Compliance
(21 Feb 2013)

Mary Lou McDonald: Is there an additional charge?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 7 - Audit of Revenue 2011
Chapter 8 - Revenue Outturn 2011
Chapter 9 - Revenue Debt Collection
Chapter 10 - Increasing Tax Compliance
(21 Feb 2013)

Mary Lou McDonald: I am talking about the additional charge attracted in seeking a deferral.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 7 - Audit of Revenue 2011
Chapter 8 - Revenue Outturn 2011
Chapter 9 - Revenue Debt Collection
Chapter 10 - Increasing Tax Compliance
(21 Feb 2013)

Mary Lou McDonald: To illustrate the utter lunacy of this taxation measure, a person out of work who happens to own his or her own home receives no exemption or waiver from it. The only relief available is that the person can ask not to pay it now but at a later date. To add insult to injury, in seeking that deferral, the State will levy an additional 4% interest charge. That is insane. I thank Ms Feehily...

Other Questions: Energy Schemes (26 Feb 2013)

Mary Lou McDonald: To ask the Minister for Communications, Energy and Natural Resources the way in which he expects the €70 million energy efficiency fund to be spent; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [9982/13]

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