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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Junior Certificate History Curriculum: Discussion (12 Jun 2013)

Fidelma Healy Eames: I welcome the delegations. It is great they are here making this very strong pitch for history. Given the fast moving world in which our youngsters live, there is a real danger that they are looking at everything in the here and now and that they are losing the context of our past and present which will inform the future. Does the HTAI see merit in the statements of learning produced by...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Junior Certificate History Curriculum: Discussion (12 Jun 2013)

Fidelma Healy Eames: It makes the teachers less relevant too.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Junior Certificate History Curriculum: Discussion (12 Jun 2013)

Fidelma Healy Eames: Is the objective to achieve the statement of learning?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Junior Certificate History Curriculum: Discussion (12 Jun 2013)

Fidelma Healy Eames: Chairman, I must clarify this.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Junior Certificate History Curriculum: Discussion (12 Jun 2013)

Fidelma Healy Eames: Can Mr. Mac Fhlannchadha see that if history is not offered, neither a student nor a school would try to achieve a particular statement of learning through history?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Junior Certificate History Curriculum: Discussion (12 Jun 2013)

Fidelma Healy Eames: The Chairman started where I wish to continue. We have a dilemma. The history teachers of Ireland seem to want one thing. Could the Department say what it has achieved from this session in terms of how we can marry the different concerns? I refer to the statements of learning. Can we broaden the number of statements through which history can be achieved? Who decides that? Is it the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Junior Certificate History Curriculum: Discussion (12 Jun 2013)

Fidelma Healy Eames: It is at the will of the school.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Junior Certificate History Curriculum: Discussion (12 Jun 2013)

Fidelma Healy Eames: Can we address the subject at issue - history?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Junior Certificate History Curriculum: Discussion (12 Jun 2013)

Fidelma Healy Eames: I understand the broader curriculum.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Junior Certificate History Curriculum: Discussion (12 Jun 2013)

Fidelma Healy Eames: Who will decide? Will it be the principal or the Department?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Junior Certificate History Curriculum: Discussion (12 Jun 2013)

Fidelma Healy Eames: What committee?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Junior Certificate History Curriculum: Discussion (12 Jun 2013)

Fidelma Healy Eames: I hope today's discussion will form part of the work of that committee because unless history is included to match further statements of learning, it is on its way out.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Junior Certificate History Curriculum: Discussion (12 Jun 2013)

Fidelma Healy Eames: Ms Naughton only mentioned statement 8.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Junior Certificate History Curriculum: Discussion (12 Jun 2013)

Fidelma Healy Eames: We can learn from that. I would be happy to make a formal proposal in that regard.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Junior Certificate History Curriculum: Discussion (12 Jun 2013)

Fidelma Healy Eames: It could easily be a reality. The truth is that history must go up against something unless it can stand alone.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Junior Certificate History Curriculum: Discussion (12 Jun 2013)

Fidelma Healy Eames: Unless it is stand alone.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Junior Certificate History Curriculum: Discussion (12 Jun 2013)

Fidelma Healy Eames: Deputy Tuffy is such a nice Chair.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Junior Certificate History Curriculum: Discussion (12 Jun 2013)

Fidelma Healy Eames: As a member of the committee I wish to make a formal proposal in support of Senator Mac Conghail that because we are learning from our past and our comparators we should explore how we could bring in somebody from the UK and consider the experience there and why they are doing a U-turn.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Junior Certificate History Curriculum: Discussion (12 Jun 2013)

Fidelma Healy Eames: With the help of the History Teachers' Association of Ireland, and others, we will find a means to fund such a visit. Perhaps the person would be willing to come without funding.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Junior Certificate History Curriculum: Discussion (12 Jun 2013)

Fidelma Healy Eames: Fantastic.

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