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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Alleged Issues in the Horse Racing Industry: Discussion (8 Jul 2021)

Jackie Cahill: Senator Mullen.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Alleged Issues in the Horse Racing Industry: Discussion (8 Jul 2021)

Jackie Cahill: Senator Mullen, let Dr. Hillyer-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Alleged Issues in the Horse Racing Industry: Discussion (8 Jul 2021)

Jackie Cahill: Will Senator Mullen let the witness finish her answer please?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Alleged Issues in the Horse Racing Industry: Discussion (8 Jul 2021)

Jackie Cahill: Senator Mullen is not respecting the Chair. I want to let the witness finish her answer. Will Senator Mullen please respect the Chair?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Alleged Issues in the Horse Racing Industry: Discussion (8 Jul 2021)

Jackie Cahill: You are interrupting, on a frequent basis, while the witness in giving her answer. I am allowing the witness to finish her answer and then the Senator can come back in.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Alleged Issues in the Horse Racing Industry: Discussion (8 Jul 2021)

Jackie Cahill: No. Senator Mullen is interrupting the witness.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Alleged Issues in the Horse Racing Industry: Discussion (8 Jul 2021)

Jackie Cahill: Senator Mullen is interrupting the witness. Let the witness finish.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Alleged Issues in the Horse Racing Industry: Discussion (8 Jul 2021)

Jackie Cahill: Senator Mullen, just in case there is a misunderstanding I am chairing the meeting. The Department will come before us next Tuesday and we can ask questions on its actions in regard to that. That is a question more appropriate for the Department.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Alleged Issues in the Horse Racing Industry: Discussion (8 Jul 2021)

Jackie Cahill: When the Department is before the committee next Tuesday it will have questions to answer because the regulations on feed are under its portfolio.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Alleged Issues in the Horse Racing Industry: Discussion (8 Jul 2021)

Jackie Cahill: There have been very intensive discussions and this is obviously a very important issue. I know Deputy Flaherty is waiting to get in but we are over time. Three or four other Deputies indicated they have more questions to ask. Deputy Browne had to leave to attend another committee. He represents the same part of the country that I represent and I know he is extremely interested in this...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Alleged Issues in the Horse Racing Industry: Discussion (8 Jul 2021)

Jackie Cahill: That is correct. If we were in non-Covid times, we would continue for another hour or two but I am under strict orders from the Ceann Comhairle to conclude the meeting within two hours. The committee is due to meet that Tuesday anyway, so I suggest that we have a second session to finish our discussions on this issue. The committee is now adjourned until 3.30 p.m. on Tuesday, 13 July, when...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Alleged Issues in the Horse Racing Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (13 Jul 2021)

Jackie Cahill: Okay. That is very clear.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Alleged Issues in the Horse Racing Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (13 Jul 2021)

Jackie Cahill: We will try Senator Mullen again to see if he has sound.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Alleged Issues in the Horse Racing Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (13 Jul 2021)

Jackie Cahill: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Alleged Issues in the Horse Racing Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (13 Jul 2021)

Jackie Cahill: Let Mr. Grassick answer the question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Alleged Issues in the Horse Racing Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (13 Jul 2021)

Jackie Cahill: Wait now, Senator Mullen. The comments were made in the media. That is fine. I will not ask Mr. Halford to answer that question. That is not a fair question for him.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Alleged Issues in the Horse Racing Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (13 Jul 2021)

Jackie Cahill: In fairness, Mr. Grassick has answered the question. He said he has no information on the matter. I think that answer is sufficient.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Alleged Issues in the Horse Racing Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (13 Jul 2021)

Jackie Cahill: For the information of Deputy Kehoe, the IHRB clarified at the previous meeting that its figures are subject to audit. I know the point the Deputy was making regarding the composition of the board but although between €9 million and €10 million is spent by the IHRB, that money is audited.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Alleged Issues in the Horse Racing Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (13 Jul 2021)

Jackie Cahill: I thank Deputy Flaherty and call Deputy Michael Collins.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Alleged Issues in the Horse Racing Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (13 Jul 2021)

Jackie Cahill: I thank Mr. Halford and Mr. Grassick of the Irish Racehorse Trainers Association for engaging with us on this extremely important topic. We will now suspend for two minutes while we are waiting to get in the other witnesses. Is that agreed?

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