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Seanad: Ethical Foreign Policy: Motion (28 Mar 2007)

David Norris: Hear, hear.

Seanad: Ethical Foreign Policy: Motion (28 Mar 2007)

David Norris: I use Mrs. Thatcher's phraseology and praise the Minister of State, DeputyHaughey's, father for his rebuttal of her.

Seanad: Ethical Foreign Policy: Motion (28 Mar 2007)

David Norris: That is what it is legally.

Seanad: Ethical Foreign Policy: Motion (28 Mar 2007)

David Norris: I am sure, and I have been there.

Seanad: Ethical Foreign Policy: Motion (28 Mar 2007)

David Norris: What about the rockets and bombs the Israelis poured on top of people and the many casualties?

Seanad: Ethical Foreign Policy: Motion (28 Mar 2007)

David Norris: We recognise the legitimate government of Palestine.

Seanad: Ethical Foreign Policy: Motion (28 Mar 2007)

David Norris: It does not grant full equality to Arabs. It forbids inter-racial marriage.

Seanad: Ethical Foreign Policy: Motion (28 Mar 2007)

David Norris: The Minister did not answer the question he was asked and the same goes for the Senator.

Seanad: Ethical Foreign Policy: Motion (28 Mar 2007)

David Norris: Does the Senator mean that using torture is a good idea?

Seanad: Ethical Foreign Policy: Motion (28 Mar 2007)

David Norris: At least that is honest.

Seanad: Ethical Foreign Policy: Motion (28 Mar 2007)

David Norris: I have mentioned that.

Seanad: Ethical Foreign Policy: Motion (28 Mar 2007)

David Norris: Hear, hear.

Seanad: Ethical Foreign Policy: Motion (28 Mar 2007)

David Norris: Absolutely.

Seanad: Ethical Foreign Policy: Motion (28 Mar 2007)

David Norris: Hear, hear.

Seanad: Ethical Foreign Policy: Motion (28 Mar 2007)

David Norris: Hear, hear. Well said.

Seanad: Ethical Foreign Policy: Motion (28 Mar 2007)

David Norris: Through the Chair.

Seanad: Ethical Foreign Policy: Motion (28 Mar 2007)

David Norris: I thank all my colleagues who took part in this debate. It is a pity the Minister paid such a flying visit. I wish he had been here to listen to some of my comments and tried to answer them. He simply obfuscated. Questions were not answered, which was extremely disappointing. I contrast this with the refreshingly honest, though sadly short, speech of Senator Mansergh because he...

Seanad: Ethical Foreign Policy: Motion (28 Mar 2007)

David Norris: Yes, but the interests came first. Senator Mansergh did not put the ideals first, which is very telling. That is a position. It is a very old-fashioned 19th-century position. In a world that is globalised, it is no longer relevant. It is the one thing that will get us into trouble. At least, that is my opinion. However, Senator Mansergh was honest and open and dealt with it. If, by...

Seanad: Ethical Foreign Policy: Motion (28 Mar 2007)

David Norris: Fine but I am going to make a final point. We have recently seen this business of the Australian, David Hicks, confessing. Is it any surprise, since he spent five years under these conditions? I have his description of what happened. He had to lie on the floor with very few clothes, the air-conditioning is kept on full so he shivers all the time. He said to another detainee——

Seanad: Ethical Foreign Policy: Motion (28 Mar 2007)

David Norris: The Senator should shut up. He was laughing earlier on and distracting people.

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